I think the original announcements were a touch over optimistic, however anyone with a bit of sense knows that there are likely to be delays. Firm information was never announced about them, just that there would be some at some point.

We know that there have been delays, we don't know what those delays are. Perhaps the people involved don't want every action in the process declared publically due to commercial interests? We know the tenders went out, we don't know the results.

Why do you want the club to apologise for something that in all likelyhood will be beyond their control? And by saying the exact thing you are complaining about them doing?

It was only a few weeks back in January in the local free sheets, following people wanting to know what was happening and why supporters and the public were not being kept in touch, that the Club announced they would stage meetings/presentations in February!

Why do you care?
Serious question.

Simple Don, I care about Rugby League, not just my club I support Quins RL and the games image and as important as a St Helens Council Tax Payer!

but we dont need constant info on the build. i dont know why people feel they are "owed" it?

I would agree. However, it would be nice to know when these meetings the club said would happen in February are actually going to happen, given that they are clearly not going to happen in February.

It is a bit off putting to have dates given to us by the club only to watch the dates pass by and only silence from the club. It's starting to look like there are some problems.

Totally agree.It seems we've been moving to a new ground/rebuilding KR since I was a kid.I'm happy to just leave them to get on with it and look forward to watching the first match there(assuming I don't drop dead first

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Ah thats good, cos I was getting the impression that you were rather enjoying the whole no news Is bad news type message.

But if they don't know when, how can they give further dates without opening themselves up for further criticism if they don't happen? I'd prefer them to come out and something along the lines of 'there have been delays beyond their control and more information will be forthcoming as soon as they get it'


I do however agree that they should have given us fair warning that the original meetings wouldn't be happening. However, this isn't the first time that communications from the club have been criticised, nor I suspect, will it be the last

Come time to renew your season ticket you'll want to know.

granted, but if it isnt started by November i will be a little concerned

That's fine. IMO they can say that. But saying nothing having once again not fulfilled their announcement is undermining their credibiilty and, frankly, they deserve criticism. They aren't a charity but a business and the fans do pay something towards the maintenance of that business. Therefore the club do owe the fans and especially when they have declared a specific intention. It is very poor but I'm advised by those who have been fans much longer than me that Saints haven't changed at all in this respect.

If nothings been announced by 16th March we'll raise an army and storm the battlements ok???



Those vagabonds who have organised the funding for a brand new stadium for the Saints and in some cases put in £100,000s of their own cash to keep the club afloat need stringing up for their dispicable lack of customer care and not announcing something as important as a 3d supporter viewing

dont forget writing off the clubs debt out of their own pocket too! (you probably meant that, but it brings the figure into millions of £, not 100' of 1000's

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We need to organise a lynch mob immeadiately!

Don't be silly.

Supporters have also put in their hard earned cash in purchasing tickets and merchandise. Just because each supporter hasn't invested hundreds of thousands does not mean they should be ignored. They are as valuable a part of the Saints business as the directors and should be treated as such.

But on the flip side of this, you could argue that as fans we get great value for money £19 or less gets you into watch top teir sport with a variety of full internationals onshow, replica jerseys are a reasonable price etc, etc (I'll give you the refreshments are a bit dear for what you get) . The Directors on the other hand get nothing for the money they put into the club (except abuse). We as fans are lucky to have this set of directors, they are streets (cities even!) ahead of the last lot!

Yes true, we poor snivelling fans trying to compete with Poles etc. to keep a minimum legal wage warehouse job should be grateful for every crumb these benevolent betters throw down to us. Just coz we have to work over three hours to earn enough for an entrance ticket doesn't give us the right to be informed.

How very dare we.

We're lucky to not be asked to avert our lowly gaze away from the sharp suited Directors when they walk around the side of the pitch before the start of the game.

So shut up and be thankful for every crumb, and don't ever ever question a daft timeline anounced by our betters again.

Tips flat cap and shuffles off.

Now I have to say that there is a bit of daft stuff in your post.

£19.00 to watch Saints in a decrepid old stadium is not value for money! It's our hard earned money. As is the £40.00 shelled out for new kit every season. No, I don't have to pay for a ticket or new kit, just like the directors don't have to invest a part of their fortunes into the club. However, we all do this investing business and what we invest is relative to what we earn and have available to invest. It is very possible that the directors will begin to see a return on their investment once the stadium is up and running (assuming it ever will be). However, the only investment supporters will get is watching Saints play.

We have as much right to know what is going on as the directors do because without us there would be no Saints just as there would be no Saints without the directors. We are of equal importance to the club and should be of equal value.

the club is a business and we are the customers, we dont have to purchase what the business is selling, and the business can be run as the directors see fit. Obviously it is in the directors and the business' best interests to keep their customers as happy as possible, i just dont see how having a meeting to say "its out of our control, ask langtree" is going to help? Why dont the fans who are so desperate to know how every aspect of the build is going, just ask Langtree?

Exactly. What business survives without customers?


That's a daft thing to say to be honest.

It is perfectly natural for fans to be concerned when - yet again - the club make a public statement concerning the new stadium only for it to silently pass by without fulfilment. It is the without comment bit which undermines the credibility of the club.

To be fair, if they've announced meetings for February and not provided them for whatever reason, all it takes is a statement saying that they aren't happening for whatever reason. Not saying anything just invites speculation and annoys people, it puts the club in a bad light.

The club seems to veer between telling us everything to telling us nothing. Do the club still employ a media manager? I know they've thrown a bit of a strop against websites (but don't know the full details), but that doesn't mean that they should stop telling the fans anything. How long does it take to knock up a statement saying that the scheduled meetings have been cancelled due to unexpected delays in the tendering process (or whatever the reason is)?

Sadfish,

I admire your 100% always unquestionable loyalty and support to the St Helens RLFC Board and Club, but sometimes people do have to ask questions, it is not intended as an attack as some "loyalists" here seem to always think it is.

This time many posters seem clearly to want answers why announced dates for February have not been met, it is just a simple question.

This matter has nothing to do with Langtree as one poster felt it should be addressed to. The problem is the communications/public relations The Club seem to operate and as one poster has now set out supporters and interested parties even deeming to ask questions or make comments on websites. It is 2010 and this is the world we live in, the Club should not be afraid or concerned that supporters and towns people show interest, this case why meetings announced for February have and are not taking place, it is just being frivolous the comment about the meetings just a simple 3D viewing.

I have 100% loyalty to the team of St Helens RLFC.

Don't say what you don't know with regards to anything else about me.

As people have said it is 2010 etc. so it took me about 10 seconds to find the media manager's contact details www.saintsrlfc.com/clubinfo/71 so all those who seem so keen to know, why dont you ring or e-mail him?

As people have said it is 2010 etc. so it took me about 10 seconds to find the media manager's contact details www.saintsrlfc.com/clubinfo/71 so all those who seem so keen to know, why dont you ring or e-mail him?