Actually, if Leeds do beat Cats (I have the feeling in my water that they won't this year though) then I think Wigan are a little knackered as I'd take either Leeds or Wire to do them at the Piedome. I think they'll still pick Leeds or Cats over Wire every day of the week however.

Anyone who has not answered 'Yes' is a moron.

It seems to me your feelings seem more wishful ones than anything else, you seem to be almost daring Wigan to take on Wire (if they are in the mix)rather than the seemingly easier bouts with Leeds or the Cats thus removing the task of the Saints having to do a quick double on them at Cardboard park. Have more faith in your own side, and why should the Pies be barmy enough to take on the job for you? Hope to see you in the GF (you never know) knackered or not.

So if it is not Cats or Hull I presume you will not be there!

I'll be there no matter who plays as I'm a supporter of the greatest game on earth, rugby league!

I'm getting immune from losing in the GF par for the course for Saints,

but it would be great if Saints turned up & won the GF for once.

Even after losing the last 5 GF's in a row, I would bet that every team apart from Leeds & Wigan in 2010 would have swapped places with us to have even got there. Getting to the GF is a great achievement and obviously losing is hard to take but I would rather be there and lose than watch 2 other teams battle it out to become champions.

I dont care how many finals we have lost on the bounce, our aim at the start of the season should be to get to OT and I am desperate to be back there again this year.

We are still the most successful team in SL history (a fact that people seem to forget) and that has naturally brought a lot of gloryhunters out of the woodwork that dont want to turn up if they think we are going to lose but any TRUE Saint would want us there regardless of the result to watch the boys contest the biggest night of the season

+1

what you all going on about i thought warrington had already won it seeing as theyve got a thread on next years world club challenge and who they will be playing and whos going and were its going to be etc

Nail on head. I'm a Loiner - 6 CC final defeats and counting - but the notion that I'd rather my forego the hope and expectation that goes with a final appearance beggars belief. It's akin to staying in the house all summer in case it rains.

Rhinos fan in peace

I've really come to love your guys team, especially considering the brash upstarts at Warrington & Wigan. I'd love Leeds to win again, but if not, you've my (and almost every Leeds fan I know)'s support. TBH the only result I don't want is Leeds winning another GF against you guys.

But think positive. Another win, and you guys will have 20 trophies in the SL era.

(ftr, Wigan have 8. That tends to shut up all that 'fios' =#FF0000moderated).

It's interesting that because over the last 5 or 6 years my respect of Leeds as a club, team and fanbase has really grown. Players like Sinfield, McGuire, Burrow and Peacock are real champions and deserve every one of those winners rings

I've also shared many a pint with some top Leeds fans throughout the numerous semi-finals and finals without an ounce of trouble in any of them - even the final where there was some animosity (2007?) we drank in a pub which was mostly Leeds and had a great time

Good luck for the rest of the play-offs!

- ffs-->get a room -

With it now likely to be either Wigan or Leeds we play in the final I firmly want us to lose the semi final. We can't beat either of those sides in a final.

Phone the Samaritans you depressing numpty!!!

I can't wait already for next week. I'd like us to play Wire because Hull going to the DW is a fifty point drubbing waiting to happen. Leeds will give them a game, for a bit. The chips are down now. No shirking, no hiding, no coasting. It's all hands on deck and that includes us. I've picked a ticket for the West Stand on Saturday so let's get that cup final atmosphere going.

We can beat both in a final. We just haven't beaten either in a Grand Final since 2006. Let's keep things in proportion.

With the way Saints have been playing this season, should we make it to OT this year we could try the tactic of boring the opposition to death. That could work where playing rugby has failed previously.

Never write off the Saints.

If the pitch is 4 foot deep in water we'll have a chance. Otherwise...

Our forwards could win it on the big pitch if they had a kicking game to work off, but they don't. If we get there again let's just hope the occasion gets to the opposition and the bad luck goes their way instead of ours for once...

Why wouldnt any fan want us there? if we're there we have a chance and thats all you need to be champions in this system

You lot are forgetting what grand final night is like. The traffic jams on the way, the dark cold night. The sinking feeling when we fall behind, the inevitability of our demise. The walk back to the car, the realisation that another 100+ pounds have been wasted.

No thanks.

You're forgetting the bleeding shins and early onset osteoporosis that you develop sitting in those cripplingly cramped and uncomfortable seats for 2 hours... I don't give a monkey's what anyone says - I'm very glad not to be going this year.

Agreed, whoever we get next week let's 'ave it! COYS!

First world problems.

Lets take a trip into the jumbled mess that is inside Sad boys head - as scary a thought as that might be



"I know that we are the worst team ever but - gosh darn it - we keep looking like we can get to the grand final again - no matter how much I try to make everyone else see how poor we are as a team and individually - especially that Wellens bloke


I am just going to have to change tack now and make out that the Grand final isnt worth going to

- well because its
In Manchester


Its dark at night


It rains


There are other people there


we might get beat in a sporting contest

Thats extremely unfair
It will cost me money


and those nasty internet warriors will rip me to pieces next year when I spout the same old crap if we do win this year


Life just isnt fair - I know I should get behind the team but I just can't do it when slagging them off is just so much fun


Please God help me

and make sure those other teams win and dont put an end to me being popular

"

When will you learn? It's the same bravado ever year.

''COYS!! WHOEVER WE PLAY BRING IT ON! WE'RE GONNA WIN! IT'S OUR TIME



'' ad nauseum.

The simple, brutal fact is you will not win the grand final whilst you are on this losing streak and you keep doggedly making the final, year after year after year after year.... You know, the players are only human and all those losses has a massive effect.

You need a season or 2 of not making the final, to put a partition on those losses, to be able to draw a line under them and move on.

If you make the final it's going to be 6 losses on the trot. You're better off having an hnourable exit next week...it'll set the club and the players free.