Frightening side that.

I am still waiting for Y2K - the year of the Warrior as well as 'the New Breed' to come to fruition.

Wigan fans are the new Wires... Is Paul Darbyshire the next Paul Sculthorpe yet?

Veivers v Lomax
Ainscough v Amrstrong
Marsh v Dean
Thornley v Foster
Charnley v Baines
Pryce v Wheeler
Tomkins v Eastmond
O'Carroll v Graham
McIlorum v Roby
Prescott v Emmitt
Hansen v Clough
Mossop v Dixon
Tomkins v Ashurst

Farrell v Thompson
Davies v Yates
Flanagan v Magennis
Tuson v Frodsham

Anyone fancy having a pop at splitting the two?

It's more frightening than the Saints team that was put up, in particular the back line.

Especially the back line? You mean ours that have 5 players with first team experience to your 3, 1 of which is a Bradford reject?

Ok.

From what I have seen on more than enough occasions to judge the only Saints players in the 1-7 who are better than the Wigan backline are Lomax and Wheeler. I would take the Wigan backline anyday over the Saints one, as proven in the last u21s encounter. If you was there you would have known this, the league table also doesn't lie. Our 18's are also top at the moment of their league, are you going to tell me that the Saints 18's are also better? Even though the league table suggests otherwise.

you lot have been saying this for years:

"lets see how you cope without...

Bobby Goulding
Paul Newlove
Chris Joynt
Tommy Martyn
Paul Sculthorpe
Jamie Lyon
...."

plus any other number of names. now its Long and KC, in a couple of years it will be "lets see how you cope without Pryce and Wilkin", then it will be "lets see how you cope without Roby and Graham".

We always cope.

Well done, but we're talking young local talent, which for us would include the likes of Lomax, Graham, Roby, Clough, Frodsham - all of whom didn't play in the reserve GF loss.

After all Wigan's bleating about Saints putting players in from the first team squad to boost the reserve grand final side, we didn't. Wigan, however, played Goulding, McIlorum and O'Carroll who were regular first teamers and a couple were going to the World Cup

Suppose you can't blame them - we did finish top of both academy leagues last season after all. We were winning at half time too.

Wigan's youngsters may well be winning at reserve team level - bolstered as it has been at certain points by the likes of Smith, Mathers, Pryce, Goulding who have played first team for years - but Saints academy has produced the last 3 MoS winners. I know which one I'd rather have.

If we put all our home grown players up against all Wigan's it would be a massacre. Name a home grown, on the books wigan team that could live with:

Wellens
Armstrong
Dean
Wheeler
Lomax
Eastmond
Matty Smith
Graham
Cunningham
Frodsham
Clough
Ashurt
Roby

Moore
Emmitt
Dixon
Ellis

England international on the bench

I wondered how long it would take for someone to roll that out. Long and Cunningham are far more influential than any of those players.

Yep, every saints player is made to look great by the others.

More influential than back to back MoS winner, Saints and GB captain Paul Sculthorpe?

Long is so critical to Saints at the moment that we take him off at half time so Eastmond can play and are letting him go to Hull.

Sculthorpe and Joynt had at least equivalent impact and influence on the Saints teams at the time of their leaving.

Long has pretty much already been replaced and we have 2 international hookers in the wings to replace Cunningham, i.e. we have more England international hookers as backup to Cunningham, than Wigan has England internationals of any position.

Or we can replace him when injured with a second row forward when playing the current champions.

Another

from me. The team that Ashmeister posted is better than that one.

Lets see this Wigan home grown on the books team then? Will be interesting to hear you justify it as better than a side including 5 current/former internationals, including 3 MoS winners.

Keep on feeding that troll lads.

We might see these lads in 5/6yrs www.saintsrlfc.com/news/1863

We might see these lads in 5/6yrs www.saintsrlfc.com/news/1863

Quote ="Saint Simon"We might see these lads in 5/6yrs www.saintsrlfc.com/news/1863'" you will probably see david hewitt he is a monster.

Quote ="Saint Simon"We might see these lads in 5/6yrs www.saintsrlfc.com/news/1863'" you will probably see david hewitt he is a monster.

Your reserves have more SL experience than ours of that there's no doubt. Playing a youngster in your side every now and again is no big deal. They have big game players around them to help them through. Playing one alongside the shower of sh*t that currently is our first team would be suicidal.

Didn't we buy him from Salford?

Eh?

he comes from Oldham originally, but must have been in the Saints setup since he was about 14/15.

Exactly, half of our kids have been the first team this year. Obviously to the detrement of the reserves. And what a fine job they've done.

That's a pretty impressive list and a bold statement to make. Goulding of 96 was just as influential.

Martyn was a playmaker and gamebreaker extraordinaire.

Scully and Lyon, both men of steel and record points scorers.