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| I disagree. This is WIGAN V ST HELENS in a cup semi. I agree that for most semis, the HJ would suffice, but for Wigan & Saints, with both sides being quite evenly matched, I'd imagine a 25/30k crowd is do-able.
Wigan & Saints, in any competitive fixture, is one hell of a draw.
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| Quote ="Mr. Messy"Furthermore Saints have said we've been allocated LESS than the number of Season Ticket holders we have.
IMO I think we've only been given what we normally have for an away game at the HJ, The West Stand and first block of the North Stand.'"
The head of redvee has posted the stand capacities to be something approx it can't be perfect as it totals 12,600, and some other sites suggest West holds 3,500
Quote North stand - 3,000
East Stand - 2,400
South Stand - 4,000
West Stand - 3,200 '"
Wigan have 6,400 + North
Saints have 3,500 + North
RFL - portion of the North??
For Saints to tweet that it is about equal that would suggest we have more of the North than normal but we have to easily sell out to feel under sold.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"According to Saints on Twitter, Wigan and Saints fans will have about equal allocations.'"
Both have 5000
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"I disagree. This is WIGAN V ST HELENS in a cup semi. I agree that for most semis, the HJ would suffice, but for Wigan & Saints, with both sides being quite evenly matched, I'd imagine a 25/30k crowd is do-able.
Wigan & Saints, in any competitive fixture, is one hell of a draw.'"
In a longer time frame, I would agree with you - but with less than 2 weeks to get it all sorted, there just isnt the time to introduce a full on marketing campaign and aim for a complete sell out at a bigger stadium. Given a month and some proper promotion, they could have got 25/30k for this game.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"I disagree. This is WIGAN V ST HELENS in a cup semi. I agree that for most semis, the HJ would suffice, but for Wigan & Saints, with both sides being quite evenly matched, I'd imagine a 25/30k crowd is do-able.
Wigan & Saints, in any competitive fixture, is one hell of a draw.'"
I agree it [ishould[/i be.
As I've posted before I've never been as excited for a cup semi as I am for this one and if everyone felt the same as us we could easily match the good friday gate in the right venue, the problem is both clubs have too many apathetic fans for the cup and for semi finals (Saints admittedly more so at the moment)
Look at the 2009 semi finals - Wigan hadn't been to the final in 5 years and never to the new Wembley and they couldn't sell out 13,300 against Warrington who also hadn't been to a final in years. Saints had won 3 cups in a row and sold no more than about 6000!
I certainly think 13,000 shouldn't be enough, but the only way we can show they undersold the game is by selling out in record time, not that it would make a difference to the RFL!
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| Quote ="Chris Saint"The head of redvee has posted the stand capacities to be something approx it can't be perfect as it totals 12,600, and some other sites suggest West holds 3,500
Wigan have 6,400 + North
Saints have 3,500 + North
RFL - portion of the North??
For Saints to tweet that it is about equal that would suggest we have more of the North than normal but we have to easily sell out to feel under sold.'"
We've only got part of the East. When we played at the HJ vs Catalans, we were allocated the South and East, but the RFL retained an allocation in both stands to sell.
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| Smart money is to buy from the RFL then.
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| Quote ="Chris Saint"RFL - portion of the North??'"
800 according to Saints with 2000 being held back from both clubs at this stage (although I don't know from which stand(s) the 2000 are being withheld).
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| Just seen a fantastic idea on Twitter
[urlhttps://twitter.com/#!/StHelensGreens/status/95506235373264897[/url
Thoughts?
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| Can't wait for your ground to be completed and Wires capacity to be increased.
It will solves alot of problems when it comes to these cup semis.
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Both have 5000'"
Link please ?
Dream on.
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| Quote ="Ande"Just seen a fantastic idea on Twitter
[urlhttps://twitter.com/#!/StHelensGreens/status/95506235373264897[/url
Thoughts?'"
did you see what happened when they had big screens in manchester for rangers fans? I think it would end alot like that!
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| Quote ="Ande"Just seen a fantastic idea on Twitter
[urlhttps://twitter.com/#!/StHelensGreens/status/95506235373264897[/url
Thoughts?'"
I doubt there will be enough people missing out on tickets to make that a feasible idea. Those who dont get tickets will happily watch in the pub or at home I would have thought!
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| Big screens are an extravagance that Councils can ill afford nowa days. Especially given that it is free to air on TV.
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"Link please ?
Dream on.'"
Wigans ticket office!!
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| When on General sale, will it be 1 ticket only again?
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| Quite frankly I could not careless on the ticket allocation. Either people should turn up week in and week out and therefore boost attendances generally forcing the RFL to aim higher, or stop moaning because they cannot get a ticket for a match that is limited.
Reminds me alot of the Olympics whinners.. There is limited space, therefore not everyone gets a ticket and no matter the allocation system there will always be those wanting to whine. It's not fair it's not fair. No doubt, there will still be tickets available at the end of this week. There is a huge difference between playing at KR and Wigan where we get about 5000k away fans turn up to bolster the home support and getting basically a maximum turn out of 15k from each club to fill a 30k seater.
If you take Saints last year our average was between 10 - 11k, when wigan came we sold out. so lets say that's Wigan bringing 5k. At Wigan similar story. So you can draw about 5k away fans for a normal fixture, add to that some who will make the extra effort for a semi and there is your RFL calculation.
It's not a final and some glory hunters will hold back waiting for the final rather than put out for a semi.
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Wigans ticket office!!'"
What a load of cobblers... the south stand holds 4000 on its own and we have been given part of the east and north. 7000 at least would be more accurate.
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| Quote ="Sihill88"What a load of cobblers... the south stand holds 4000 on its own and we have been given part of the east and north. 7000 at least would be more accurate.'"
Ok fair enough!!
If your right and Saints sell their 5000 but we have only sold 4500 what happens?
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"If your right and Saints sell their 5000 but we have only sold 4500 what happens?'"
We will get the rest!
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| Looking at the Sales plan in the shop its something like this: Saints have the West and first 3 blocks of the North, the RFL have the 4th and 5th with Wigan having the other 3 blocks, Pies also have the entire North stand and some of the East. The RFL have held some East stand tickets back and Saints have confirmed that depending on ticket sales they may get some of these.
Based on that plan I'd say its split around 5000 : 6500 the RFL have about 800 and the rest will be distributed depending on sales.
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| Is it not sold out yet????
Hmmm there is a surprise.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Is it not sold out yet????
Hmmm there is a surprise.'"
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| 5000 tickets allocated directly to each team and the remaining 3000 available to the public at large
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Quite frankly I could not careless on the ticket allocation. Either people should turn up week in and week out and therefore boost attendances generally forcing the RFL to aim higher, or stop moaning because they cannot get a ticket for a match that is limited.'"
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