The thing is - the coach and squad together can't moan about laziness when you've got players turning their backs and watching guys run past them for tries. Cas' first THREE tries were solely down to laziness.

Do as I say - but not as I do, eh?

How does the fact im writing in a thread about Mose thst wasnt started by me account for me banging on about mose? Isn't it normal practice to chat about mose in a thread about mose? Isn't it against the AUP to talk off subject ?

Not once have i blamed mose for some of our dire performances. Not once have I said HES directly to blame.

Do I think he's lazy? Yes

Do think we carry him ? Yes

Do I think he lets his team mates down ? Yes

Does he like hard tough work ? No

Would I pick him? Not unless we down to bare bones

Do I dislike him? No

I think you have got selective repetitive syndrome, Pete. Don't think we can help you out, just need to factor it in when responding I suppose.

Whatever the case - if we keep losing front-line forwards Cunningham really doesn't have much choice but selecting him.

Do you rate every single rugby league player? Do you not tbink any players in rugby league are bone idle ?

No, I think Mose is rubbish "50%" of the time, I support the shirt he is wearing but don't get hyper critical about a player. It's a team game but some players struggle periodically to get involved involuntary or otherwise.

I'd rather a player put in 100% and play bad than a player put in 5% and still play bad. If mose tried his heart out and was still rubbish than I couldn't call him but he Doesnt put the effort, heart or apply himself. He's got a group of 20yr old kids carrying him and they can get involved.

You won't ever hear me call the likes of flash. Yes we all know flash isn't really good enough but he puts the effort in. Same for Amor when he was off form, I couldn't fault his effort even tho he was playing poor.

If you show pride in the shirt, it's all us fans can ask for.

Big game tonight. How do we think Mose will go?

Will he turn up and give one of his big performances, or slink into the background?

I think enough people have predicted enough things already this season that have not come to pass.

I think we can all agree that Mose is Marmitte as a player. Personally I like him and I would have him in my team.

Does he coast, yeah probably.
Is he a player who can turn a game, yep!

There are plenty of talented players in the past who could do nothing for 50-60 minutes a game and then make a telling impact. I think Mose is one of these. The only issue really is not knowing when he will do it.
If he did it every game he would be worth a fortune and would never have come to SL.

One thing is for sure. He loves eating scabby Wigan pies.

He brought his A game last night. That's why he is critical in big games and was first on every loose ball.

He was there for the team in spades. Even stopped a break with a covering tackle.

He played well last night and he stood up in place of big alex and did a job for us.

Oh man, I'm just watching it back. Is Mose doing a Paul "hold me back" Forber impression when the little scrap broke out. It's actully embarrising

His defence was OK, the problem is we are absolutely garbage in using him in attack, bad passes, flat passes, missing him out (decoy). He's an impact player, why can't we sort it out.

He seems to disrupt wigan when he plays them. It's not his game that puts them off their game, it's the late shots on the hslves and his pretending to fight thst breaks the game up and makes their players target him more leaving room for us.

It's weird as he plays well against the pies and he's mostly awful and lazy for the rest of the year.

The thing about Mose is he knows how to hit precisely the right balance between aggression and fair play.

Opposition fans are always screaming blue murder but when you really look he's a remarkably clean player.

One thing's for sure - it's a brave man that really gets him riled. I used to think Kevin Ward was a tough proposition but I'm not sure I'm backing Wardy in that ruckus.

Do you not think he's a bit of coward and little afraid ? Clubb wanted a toe to toe but mose had a 13st half/hooker holding him back with one hand.

Don't get me wrong he played ok and he did upset them with his niggly antics but he looked afraid of clubb to me.

Errr ... no. I think he's a guy who knows very well that - at his size - there's a big danger that he could hurt some one. Very badly.

And it's a straight red for any infringement. There's not a defensive set when the referee isn't on his case. Any excuse and he's gone.

He has a lazy nature so I should imagine it would take quite a lot to get him riled, if you look at the NRL footage he's not a scrapper but a big hitter in attack and defence. Clubb, Flower + Co would probably lose control first for the yellow or red card because there nature is thugby.
In saying that it would be nice to see the raw animal in him with that power and size, how the officials or disciplinary would see it might be a different matter.

I don't think he's a coward at all. He was first in after the swinging arm. But he's not stupid there is a difference between sticking up for team mates and losing the match by getting a red by knocking someone out. Flower and Wigan generally don't have that control hence last year's grand final.

Be in their faces don't back down but don't go psycho and lose the match.

The minute Mose hits someone he's off. He won't get half a dozen chances like McIlorum.

Couldn't agree more Judder Man pete has developed an OCD compex regarding Mose. He should be placed in rehab for a few months (or years even) to give us all a rest from his repetitive droning.

What's the thread called?

What we discussing in this thread ?

Yeah Pete, what do you think you're doing posting your opinions on Internet forums??? We've got the best pack in the league!!!!! Stop slagging Mose off, he bleeds for the team!!!!

I know, I don't know why anyone would go on a public forum and post about mose in a thread that's about him.

I'll go and post it on wigan forum about it

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