I'd be surprised if he signed for Wire, but like like Mug says its been common knowledge for years that he wants to go to the NRL. I think he'll have another year or 2 with us before getting a gig down under

Who is Savs agent, I was lead to believe our club had the improved contract offer on the table at the start of this new season. I hope his agent isn,t creating a bidding war and unsettling Sav in the process.

Andre's agent is Chris Fellas from Insight Sports mate. insightsports.com.au/is/andre-savelio_119.html

Andre's agent is Chris Fellas from Insight Sports mate. insightsports.com.au/is/andre-savelio_119.html

Erm .... that's what agents are for. The idea that Sav's mind has been twisted by the malign influence of an agent is silly and a reversal of cause and effect.

A Sydney based agent………..I,m just hoping we are not getting another "Eastmond Scenario" where there is a possibility of the agent seeing the opportunity of making more money by advising him to move away regardless whether it is good or bad for the player.

Players hire agents who reflect their own personal values. Ergo ...

I should say that I once attempted to pin Jon Wilkin (in his official capacity as head of the players union) down on the question of agents playing not only the NRL off against SL, but RU, too.

He handled the question the same way one might deal with a barrel full of radioactive waste spewing deadly fission products in all directions.

If a player wants to play NRL, he's got to show he's worth it. He's got to stand out and play consistently well.

If Warrington sign Savelio, they will do so on a four year deal. Two good seasons for them, then sell him for a few hundred thousand pounds.

You all blindly support the club no matter what they do. I was absolutely bang on about the club neglecting the playing staff post KC/Scully and unless the club starts waking up it's going to happen again. Not only are we not in the bidding for the big names anymore, we're not even managing to keep the young players we produce either. That's a bad combination.

But hey ho, we've managed to tie down Matty Dawson

If the club listened to you we'd have swapped out our entire backline for Wakefield's a couple of years ago and wouldn't have seen this:



"Not only are we not in the bidding for the big names anymore"

Like who? Asotasi? Bowen? Locke?

"we're not even managing to keep the young players we produce either."

Like?

Seems like another face sadly never fitted? I rated him highly, agents? we know better than any club! lol

Jones and Savelio are off if these rumours are to be believed.

So a squad player who wouldn't make a fully fit team at centre or back row is leaving as a RU team has offered him money that we'd be silly to match.

Plus a rumour.

Calm down chicken licken. If it wasn't for another ridiculous run of injuries we'd be miles clear at the top of SL, maybe the club know a thing or two about assembling and retaining a competitive squad?

Perhaps they do, doesn't mean I can't moan about it though



You lot are too trusting though. We won last year, doesn't mean we should kick back and enjoy that glory for the next five years. Early days yet, but we're back to the ins and outs being daft again.

Maybe people trust the club because their track record of building a successful team is pretty good? Certainly judging by the trophy cabinet


Also it might be best waiting till the ins and outs are complete before passing judgement eh?

I agree. But doesn't mean I can't moan about it. I've got to keep the club on it's toes.

I'd heard a few weeks back that Savelio may be on the move, but I expected that it was to Aus not Wire. It's a difficult one for Saints. If he has been offered a big contract elsewhere, should they match it?

What happens then when the next good young player comes through, do they pay over the odds for him too?

Saints will have put a value on him, and maybe they have been pushed into an auction and said at some point no. I know that's exactly what happened at Wigan with Ben Currie.

Although he hadn't progresses as far as Savelio, we had a similar incident with Andy Braceck. He was the same age as Jammer and was also a star in the under-whatevers. He wanted more than Saints were willing to pay and, in hindsight, the club were absolutely correct. At the same time, we've stuck Lomax on a much improved contract and not exactly had got VFM on that one, depsite his talent, before that, we didn't hedge for Eastmond and really got stung.

Give over. Sure, the NRL is ahead of SL. But if you think it's a full-blown meritocracy you've swallowed too much of the hype.

Ask any Knights fan what they think the single biggest aid to Darius Boyd's career is.



If Warrington sign Savelio it will be at an inflated cost for a player who still hasn't locked down a first team jersey. Bear in mind that this is a player who is still RECOVERING from a debilitating physical and psychological ailment, the ramifications of which are UNKNOWN. Throw in the fact that he's marking time for the NRL and it's a no-brainer.



Well ... duh! That's kind of what [i"supporters"[/i are meant to do. What are you, some kind of half-assed [i"conditional supporter"?[/i As for me [i"blindly supporting the club, no matter what they do"[/i - this is a [uBARE-FACED LIE[/u and you know it.

Trumpeting how [i"bang on"[/i you are in a hysterical rant over losing a player who hasn't even been officially recognised as gone yet is about as plain an example of self-deception as I can think of.

But I'm prepared to play this game and recognise your divine powers of fortune telling if first you can tell me how many times you've been WRONG.



For heaven's sake, grow up. You know as well as I do that even if we somehow possessed the finances to assemble the RL equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters - the limits imposed by the salary cap preclude the possibility entirely. Which means TOUGH, UNSENTIMENTAL and ADULT decisions have to be made on which players receive the bulk of our salary quota.

The claim that Saints aren't "bidding for the big names" or that "we're not managing to keep the young players" is pure fantasy.

In any case, these are PROFESSIONAL rugby league players. Whilst their motivations will vary the issue of MONEY will be at the top of many's requirements. And if another club is willing to pay above the market rate you can be sure that no amount of "good will" on the club's part will stand in their way of acquiring it.

Saying all that, top players rarely move between the top SL clubs, do they?

I'm kind of glad this issue has coincided with the Paul Wellens thread because it brings into focus those attributes which are rarely prized - if recognised at all - by fans - character, loyalty, courage etc.

I'm not one of these people who think players should be grateful for anything and everything a club offers them.

But does anyone here believe that Wellens would have even dreamed of walking away from the club that gave him an opportunity BEFORE he'd had the chance to prove himself?

Players have all sorts of reasons for playing the game - and that's fine. Ultimately it's about freedom of choice and that's a good thing.

But let's not forget that Wellens, who wasn't born with a tenth of the physical gifts Sav possesses, became what he was because he simply refused to compromise on his commitment to the cause.

If Sav is going you can be damned sure he won't feel comfortable about looking Wello in the eye any time soon. Paul is too much of a gentleman to say anything in public. But in private he'll be absolutely SEETHING.

If a player chooses to place money at the top of his priorities - fine. That's his prerogative. That's his BUSINESS. But until proven otherwise every player around him who aspires to higher ideals will stamp a big red question mark mentally next to his name.

This could be the case, for me he still needs another full season to indicate that his high potential is going to be there, his agent ain,t going to expose any negatives and could be valued high before he has reached expectation. Its a tricky one for Saints, do they put big money on a player with no 100% guarantee return.

Forgot to mention: Anyone who has any kind of connection to the club knew Sav was likely leaving. It's been an open secret for some time.

But throughout the mantra has been consistent, [i"Andre desperately wants to play in the NRL and his agent is attempting to find him a slot somewhere".[/i

I can't say I was happy about him going down under. Like Burgess at Wigan I think it's too early in his career to make such a move. But if that's what he has his heart set on then good luck to the kid.

But if the rumour is true then Andre was lying. Period.

I don't care how much talent Savelio has - if you can't trust the guy then who's to say he won't take off six months into a big contract leaving the club high and dry? You can't blame the club for exercising restraint after the Eastmond debacle.

At some point you've got to draw the line in the sand. If Warrington are crazy enough to throw big money at someone who has no loyalty whatsoever and is demonstrably willing to engage in duplicity then I'm sure it won't be long before they find themselves the victim of another ruse.

I mean, I had a lot of sympathy for Lee Gaskell and even Jamie Foster. I STILL think Gaskell could have been handled better.

But don't ask me to railroad the club over not pandering to a player if his actions show no respect for it.

Comparing him to Wello, who had been with Saints all his life and is from St Helens is off. Savelio was with Warrington, moved to Saints because of his ambition to develop and learn and he's done that. He is now performing consistently well when he's picked (Have you ever seen him have a bad game?). If Saints aren't rewarding that with anything like the offer from another club, why should he stay?

Either way, I don't see how you can claim it's a good move to lose our best forward and receive nothing for him. You don't see Warrington, Leeds, Wigan losing young players to rival clubs and not being paid.

No one has asked you to. And you are assuming that just as much as I'm assuming we're just being tight with offers to save money.

You'd maybe understand if he is getting no game time whatsoever and it was Leeds or Wigan that wanted him; you know, a club that stands a chance of winning a trophy, but to join Warrington? It must be pure greed, because they sure as sh*t won't win a trophy in his time with them.