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| Quote ="McClennan"Unless Wire get another big lad to play at prop they won't finish in the top three this year.'"
That is a concern of mine. Rauhihi and a squad player in Pickersgill gone, although Pickersgill didn't play a great deal last season. We are still down a couple of bodies at prop.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"you're getting boring now. We managed 2nd last year through a truely horrific injury crisis, gained scott moore, foz and soliola for longy, gilmour and cayless, more than a fair swap for me'"
We've also "gained" the likes of Eastmond, Ashurst, Dean, Dixon, Lomax and Wheeler who up until last season hardly had any first team experience but who are now IMO exciting members of the squad who can be called upon and now do a better job than some of the regulars
But as you say Cayless (injured) Long (missed big chunks of the season and only has one eye) Gilmour (IMO will be missed) OUT and Moore (Dream Team) Fozzard (No nonsence Prop who makes good yards and plays regular) and Soliola (NZ International whose looked pretty decent so far and is yet to settle in)
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Some other people have forgotten we got far more than one or two injuries last year and were leading the league for a period and went very close to winning the GF.
You say we're down on experienced players, but Cayless didn't play and has been replaced by Foz who is very experienced. Gilmour has been replaced by a NZ international and NRL regular - hardly lacking experience. Longy has left but there are not many in world RL who would prefer to keep him over Eastmond, who has gained the experience of playing (well) against Australia and NZ at 7. Moore will provide further cover for the halves/hookers now Long has moved on and will be a useful extra ball player for us.
It remains to be seen how we cope without Longy, but given Long was very much a part of the drab RL you keep banging on about and Eastmond was pretty much the only spark we had out there at times last year, I can't see us lacking too much by swapping the 2 around. I can see Wheeler and Lomax getting much more time on the pitch this year which will add some pace too.
The extra attention that defences will have to pay to Eastmond simply as a result of his pace should allow Pryce more freedom. Teams were doubling up on Leon for pretty much all of last year and could do so in the knowledge that Long no longer had the pace to fully exploit them. They won't have that luxury with Eastmond alongside Pryce.'"
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Some other people have forgotten we got far more than one or two injuries last year and were leading the league for a period and went very close to winning the GF.
You say we're down on experienced players, but Cayless didn't play and has been replaced by Foz who is very experienced. Gilmour has been replaced by a NZ international and NRL regular - hardly lacking experience. Longy has left but there are not many in world RL who would prefer to keep him over Eastmond, who has gained the experience of playing (well) against Australia and NZ at 7. Moore will provide further cover for the halves/hookers now Long has moved on and will be a useful extra ball player for us.
It remains to be seen how we cope without Longy, but given Long was very much a part of the drab RL you keep banging on about and Eastmond was pretty much the only spark we had out there at times last year, I can't see us lacking too much by swapping the 2 around. I can see Wheeler and Lomax getting much more time on the pitch this year which will add some pace too.
The extra attention that defences will have to pay to Eastmond simply as a result of his pace should allow Pryce more freedom. Teams were doubling up on Leon for pretty much all of last year and could do so in the knowledge that Long no longer had the pace to fully exploit them. They won't have that luxury with Eastmond alongside Pryce.'"
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| Saddened has been predicting doom and gloom at Saints since the rebirth of christ, so we shouldn't really read anything into it.
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| Why alll this negativity? for me our 2010 squad is stronger than the 2009. I really think Pryce is in for a big season as he is at the end of his contact and will be looking for one last big one
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| I think if Eastmond settles into the number 7 role, we'll be fantastic this year. We have good size in the pack and the youngsters have all featured enough to step up this year and fight for a spot in the first team. The concern is in the backs, but with a good pack laying a platform the halves should get plenty of good position to give the backs room. Let's just hope Pryce and Eastmond go well.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"I think if Eastmond settles into the number 7 role, we'll be fantastic this year. We have good size in the pack and the youngsters have all featured enough to step up this year and fight for a spot in the first team. The concern is in the backs, but with a good pack laying a platform the halves should get plenty of good position to give the backs room. Let's just hope Pryce and Eastmond go well.'"
i agree looking forward to seeing pryce and eastmond this season got a good feeling about them doing well
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| we are undoubtedly a better squad than last year
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| Just posting here to stop the run of rampant positivity. With Mick Potter in charge there'll be none of that at KR this season.
We are a fullback, two wingers a centre and a quality prop away from winning a trophy next season.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Just posting here to stop the run of rampant positivity. With Mick Potter in charge there'll be none of that at KR this season.
We are a fullback, two wingers a centre and a quality prop away from winning a trophy next season.'"
warrington won a trophy with a considerably inferior squad to what we have now
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Just posting here to stop the run of rampant positivity. With Mick Potter in charge there'll be none of that at KR this season.
We are a fullback, two wingers a centre and a quality prop away from winning a trophy next season.'"
It's only superleague at the end of the day and every club has at least a few average players in it.
Saints are 2nd favourites for both trophies and rightfully so. If Eastmond and Pryce click i reckon you'll win something. The pack looks good to me especially if Soliola is played in the 2nd row and Wheeler can nail that centre spot. Add in the option of putting Lomax in at fullback/wing if needs be and you'll not be far off.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"warrington won a trophy with a considerably inferior squad to what we have now'"
Hmmmm. Not quite sure if your logic is sound.
So last year they won a trophy and we didn't which might imply that they won that with an inferior squad to to our squad of last season.
But are you saying that our squad this year is stronger than our squad for last year (?)
Or are you just saying that it doesn't matter how strong your squad is (this or last season) in order for a team to win a trophy?
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Hmmmm. Not quite sure if your logic is sound.
So last year they won a trophy and we didn't which might imply that they won that with an inferior squad to to our squad of last season.
But are you saying that our squad this year is stronger than our squad for last year (?)
Or are you just saying that it doesn't matter how strong your squad is (this or last season) in order for a team to win a trophy?
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It could be that Wire's squad last year was not as strong as ours last year but Wire played better than we did and so they won the trophy and we didn't. A team can be the best in the known universe on paper but if they don't play to potential (for whatever reason) then it doesn't matter how good the squad is on paper, the trophies will not be in the cabinet. Francis Meli is an international yet he doesn't know how to drop on a ball in the in-goal area. Great sounding on paper; rubbish play.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"sounds familiar
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At least our squad players, Frodsham, Dixon, Ashurst have played a reasonable amount of games. Their youngsters, Donaldson, Whitehead and the like have only played a few games between them. Injuries could really hurt Bradford's play-off chances this season.
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| Quote ="Father Jack"I am sick to death of wire fans telling us we are going down hill, but at least us, leeds and wigan breed home grown talent and dont try to buy the league, 275k for a scrum half who is only 3rd choice behind... tomkins and eastmond'"
How times change ..... It wasn't that long ago you lot bought Sculthorpe off us
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"How times change ..... It wasn't that long ago you lot bought Sculthorpe off us'"
and turned him into the joint best 13 in the league
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| Quote ="Father Jack"and turned him into the joint best 13 in the league'"
Joint best? Jason Smith was good but not quite that good.
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| Quote ="THELAST3YARDS"Joint best? Jason Smith was good but not quite that good.'"
I think he meant Michael Wainright
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"I think he meant Michael Wainright'"
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| Quote ="Father Jack"no thinking more rob roberts'"
Of the clan Mc Roberts, ahh yes, gotya !
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| We now have the monkey off our backs having won a long overdue trophy. The next obstacle is to beat saints at knowsley road and put an end to the nightmare run of defeats stretching back many years! I feel we are now strong enough to do this and we could well win at your place this season. We are now strong all over the park and fear no one in either the challenge cup od SL competitions,just as saints have feared no one for many years. Re signing players. If you have the money you sign them,if you don't you can't,simple as that. I expect that if we do have success fans from other clubs will say we have bought it but we are doing nothing that saints haven't done in the past or won't do in the future,just like many other clubs. Providing you stay within the cap no one else has any grounds for complaint.
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"I expect that if we do have success fans from other clubs will say we have bought it but we are doing nothing that saints haven't done in the past or won't do in the future,just like many other clubs. Providing you stay within the cap no one else has any grounds for complaint.'"
I agree with that however I think our pack is significantly stronger than your's and if Eastmond stays fit I think we're the team to beat for second.
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| I will be honest,and i am not being arrogant here, when Morley and Carvell are in form you will struggle to find a better prop forward pairing in the league!
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| Quote ="McClennan"I agree with that however I think our pack is significantly stronger than your's and if Eastmond stays fit I think we're the team to beat for second.'"
Not going for first then!!!!!!!!
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