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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Wouldn't the council have been better making the bridge wider and safer rather than spending money on fairy lights? '"
In what way is the bridge unsafe? I think its fair to say the bridge has been built as wide as it was planned to be built and that there was no toss up between an extra 10 feet in width and some lights . . . . .
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"In what way is the bridge unsafe? I think its fair to say the bridge has been built as wide as it was planned to be built and that there was no toss up between an extra 10 feet in width and some lights . . . . .'"
Look at the pictures of people leaving the ground on Friday. It looked a struggle getting over the bridge.
I think the pictures were from Chairmaker.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Look at the pictures of people leaving the ground on Friday. It looked a struggle getting over the bridge.
I think the pictures were from Chairmaker.'"
So a lot of people used it, therefore it is unsafe?
If it was wider it wouldn't be any less busy, there'd just be even more people piling on to it at once.
I don't recall it collapsing or reports of people being injured in a crush. It's a busy bridge after the match, nobody would expect anything else - especially until people cotton on to using the PX exit instead.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Look at the pictures of people leaving the ground on Friday. It looked a struggle getting over the bridge.'"
I walked over that bridge with the rest of humanity on Friday night and there was no crush, no struggle, nothing like that at all. The crush was down the side of Tesco, something the club is discussing with Tesco. We were all moving very nicely over the bridge. The bridge was built for the purpose of moving thousands of fans from the site to the town centre. That is its purpose. It is still there today. It didn't collapse!
The only work being done on the bridge is the addition of fencing on either end so as to avoid people taking a nosedive down the slopes on either side. That is sensible because although the bridge area is well lit, people could slip and so some form of fencing to guide people away from the edges makes perfect sense.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Wouldn't the council have been better making the bridge wider and safer rather than spending money on fairy lights?
Oh by the way it rained all day at Salford yesterday and the concourses were dry.'"
So let me get this straight, instead of completeing the bridge as planned with the extra lights you would like the council to spend millions of YOUR council tax to widen and completely redesign the bridge? you do know what it would entail to widen the bridge? , very poor trolling attempt Rogues , I know the wide boulevards leaving the DW rented stadium never get packed with fans , and yes the bridge was busy on Friday but no way was it dangerous in any way , we were leaving a game not evacuating the Titanic!
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| Oh to be able to stand undercover, us lot just dream.. cladding or no cladding!! lol
On a serious note, the ground looks sweet, just going by the pics Gruntfuttock kindly posted. So thanks for those, the panoramic is a beaut!
Look forward to visiting as an away fan
Regards, David
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| your welcome mate , we cant wait for the new season and welcoming you all
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"So let me get this straight, instead of completeing the bridge as planned with the extra lights you would like the council to spend millions of YOUR council tax to widen and completely redesign the bridge? you do know what it would entail to widen the bridge? , very poor trolling attempt Rogues , I know the wide boulevards leaving the DW rented stadium never get packed with fans , and yes the bridge was busy on Friday but no way was it dangerous in any way , we were leaving a game not evacuating the Titanic!'"
Hmm
Quote ="Gruntfuttock"hellfire it wasnt that bad when we came out , mind you we spent about 20 mins in the shop'"
The DW caters safely for more fans than your new stadium ever will, and the bridge on the South East corner is wider that the Saints Bridge. The concourses are dry, as were the ones at Salford last night although the view there isn't particularly good from the North Stand as the terracing is shallow.
As I come from an engineering background I prefer something that works efficiently to something that looks pretty.
It would have been better to have a wider bridge initially, I'm not saying to change it now. The council and Saints have advised people to park in the town centre car parks, so the bridge is the way most people will go.
SaintsFan has probably got it right in that there needs to be some sort of wall/fencing before the bridge to stop someone falling down the embankment.
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| Quote Wouldn't the council have been better making the bridge wider and safer rather than spending money on fairy lights? '"
Yes you are saying just that ,
and we all know the DW is bigger than our new stadium there is no need to troll on about it , we all know your opinions , like I said in another thread it IS our first new stadium in 125 years so mistakes , teething troubles will happen, , the place isnt finished yet , so yes there WILL be fencing etc , we have enough Saints fans moaning about petty little things without you chiming in , all the things mentioned are not exactly major items , despite your trying to make them sound like a cross between the towering inferno and Titanic.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Wouldn't the council have been better making the bridge wider and safer rather than spending money on fairy lights?
Oh by the way it rained all day at Salford yesterday and the concourses were dry.'"
It's far more safer than having big Balls, on the route from the stadium to your car, outside the Soccerdome!!! When it's congested with the size of crowd that comes out of the DW it becomes a major hazard as my Sister-in-law found out
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I walked over that bridge with the rest of humanity on Friday night and there was no crush, no struggle, nothing like that at all. The crush was down the side of Tesco, something the club is discussing with Tesco. We were all moving very nicely over the bridge. The bridge was built for the purpose of moving thousands of fans from the site to the town centre. That is its purpose. It is still there today. It didn't collapse!
The only work being done on the bridge is the addition of fencing on either end so as to avoid people taking a nosedive down the slopes on either side. That is sensible because although the bridge area is well lit, people could slip and so some form of fencing to guide people away from the edges makes perfect sense.'"
As did I Saintsfan, along with some few thousand others that had been at the game, and the problem like you said was down the side of Tesco and the fact a few sad people were looking in the Tesco Staff Room on the way out!!!
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| The only issue with the bridge is that there is no fencing up the embankment at the side of Tesco. If that started earlier the funnelling of people would start earlier and there'd be no issue.
The LEDs are most likely the most energy efficient lighting available, I doubt that the different colours cost more.
The wetness of the concourses is an issue, but hopefully the cladding will sort that out and in summer I'm almost certain that the wide, airy concourses will be much more pleasant to have a beer and a chat in than the small concourses at the DW, HJ and Salford.
I've met RG, I like RG, but I do wonder why some of you bite at every jibe he makes. I'm looking at you Mr Futtock
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Hmm
The DW caters safely for more fans than your new stadium ever will, and the bridge on the South East corner is wider that the Saints Bridge. The concourses are dry, as were the ones at Salford last night although the view there isn't particularly good from the North Stand as the terracing is shallow.
As I come from an engineering background I prefer something that works efficiently to something that looks pretty.
It would have been better to have a wider bridge initially, I'm not saying to change it now. The council and Saints have advised people to park in the town centre car parks, so the bridge is the way most people will go.
SaintsFan has probably got it right in that there needs to be some sort of wall/fencing before the bridge to stop someone falling down the embankment.
hth'"
I haven't the time or energy to enter into a debate about whether "your bridge is bigger than ours" but if the bridge your referring to is the one going over the canal then I can't see how that is any more efficient than the linkway one. I've been stuck in log jams for both rugby and football many a time and thankfully there's been no one injured on the steps going up and down. Also it's a potential flash point probably more so for football especially when you've got Liverpool fans chanting "you're just a town full of inbreds" at that very bottleneck.
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| point taken BL ill ignore him in future
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Look at the pictures of people leaving the ground on Friday. It looked a struggle getting over the bridge.
I think the pictures were from Chairmaker.'"
Trolling about our fantastic bridge, poor even by your standards. Especially ironic when you consider the tiny bridge outside the DW which goes over the canal.
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| I'm not sure which thread to post this on but as nobody is taking any photos of the stadium at present I thought here would be the most likely.
[url=http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/9494481.Saints_say_they_will_sort_stadium____niggles___/The Star has written a piece on feedback from last Friday[/url which clarifies everything I think.
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| Does anybody know if the Cunningham statue and Langtree sign just above is lit up permanently at night outside of match evenings. This is for a planned photo shoot.
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| I'm pretty sure I've driven past and those lights have been turned off.
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| the sign itself is turned off when there isnt an event either a game or something in the fnction rooms , otherwise the lights for the statue seem to be on all the time when its dark
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| Mrs G , Wirral Saint myself and Wirral Saint junior went on the stadium tour this afternoon and it was superb , the guide was helpful informative very patient with all the people dawdling at the back , and the meal at the end was magnificent well worth £15 ,
first thing we saw was this magnificent crest behind the reception desk
we then went to the academy changing rooms I had not realised we had 4 changing rooms, the guide said that under no circumstances were the academy players allowed in the first team dressing room, (unless they are playing with the first team of course) to give them an incentive and push them harder to make it
still very nicely appointed though
and of course the first team changing room with warm up area
we made our way through the tunnel to pitchside
i tol Wirral Saint he had a long wait for the next match but he wouldnt listen
walking round the concourse we noticed these TV`s mounted strangely on the wall the guide told us its because they will be split in two with the top portion showing ads and the bottom showing the game
everyone was well impressed with the murals around the concourse
Voll
Scully
Alan Prescott
Newlove
Harry Pinner
Karalius
we then went upstairs to the function rooms , well they are superb
one other i must mention is Alf Ellaby
I for one never knew his ashes were scattered at KR
on the walls up the stairs are the some spectacular pictures and in the lounges near the function rooms
and finally LUNCH!!!
and very yummy it was , I had pork with crackling Mrs G had Chicken , boiled spuds carrots peas and cabbage and for afters sticky toffee pudding with custard terrific food and a superb day , oh one more thing , I had not heard of this but our guide told us some poor guy has a heart attack during the Widnes match and is still in intensive care , I am sure we wish him well and a spedy recovery but the amazing thing is that it took 15 minutes between him having the attack and him being in an ambulance on the way to Whiston, so well done to the St Johns and all who helped
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The red flooring looks like they are three spike designs but two havent been finished, unless that is going to be finished in flowers on the soil.
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| It's a pity the old railway can't be converted into another pedestrian walkway.
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| Quote ="roader"It's a pity the old railway can't be converted into another pedestrian walkway.'"
The railway companies wont sell the land because it links shaw street station ( St Helens Central ) to St Helens Junction.
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