We might have won more than most teams but it don't mean we've played better than the other 12.

That doesn't wash anymore. Leeds are now 4 points ahead of us. Had we not managed to scrape a win against the Huddersfield under 10s a few weeks back, they would have been six in front and we would be third. We've been on the slide for a few months and it is only because the season has ended now that we can state we are second in the league. If Hull KR win their match this weekend, we are second by one point, I believe. Hardly something to be impressed with! Another couple of games playing as we did tonight and both Hull KR and Huddersfield would have overtaken us. Good job the season has ended tonight. We can keep a modicum of delusion as a result.

But the season did finish tonight, and we are 2nd in the league and we did reach the Challenge Cup semi-final, therefore we must have something about us, otherwise there is no way we have finished were we have. You can be as negative as you want, but the simple fact is, you don't finish 2nd in the league if we are as bad you make out we are. You don't fluke it, over 27 games.

Agreed, but you do finish 2nd in the league if you use the first half of the season to get most of your wins using a method of tatics inherited from the previous coach. You then start employing your own tactics with very limited success for the second half of the season and manage to hang onto second place.

As a Bulls fan, all I can say is:

Thanks, thanks a lot.

Not.

By one point.

Good job the season finished today. We can delude ourselves into thinking we actually deserve second spot!

Flipping heck this thread is enough to make you want to slit your wrists, heaven help some of our fans when we have a really poor season!

I know, is it me or are you still second? Try swapping place with us for a season, then you can have something to moan about.

We were expecting such a season: next year though, not this.

I wouldn't read to much into last nights game, early on we tried to play fancy stuff but the passes didn't stick. On another day they may have done.

I think we were trying to get a big score in case there was any chance of Leeds slipping up.

Once the players realised that Catalan weren't going to roll over they knew it was a pointless game.

It's a clean slate next week, everyone fit, we just need to win two home wins to get to the grand final and then see what happens on the day.

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Ive continually banged on about potter, ant one of us supporters could have done his job in the south of france with loads od aussies, hes not up to it, totally void of ideas, no tactic's, , no defence, and while we have him no Bl**dy hope, he sits there like a bl**dy cardboard cut out. Now the wizzard is coming back to leigh so why not steal him from them again?
On a serious note I dont think I will bother having a 600 mile round trip plus hotel fare any more all the time we have potter, I made that decision driving home last night, so I will just support them and watch them when they are on sky or what ever, I will return when potter goes.

How disrespectful are you?

Catalans came with a game plan and executed it to a tee!

Pretty much.

Some superb rugby league in spells from Catalans.

Catalans did play well,cant hide the fact that we were embarassingly poor.
Another entertainment free eighty minutes from us again,unfortunatly that had nothing to do with how good the opposition were.

i beg to differ, the way ade gardner tries to pick up and catch a ball is especially entertaining!

To be fair a few of us laughed hysterically when Gardner dropped the kick to him in the 2nd half. It summed up the night.

The had something Saints didn't last night, some pace in the side.

And some enthusiasm.

And they knew how to score tries.

And they read us like a book.

Strikes me that the Saints glory days are numbered. A lot of your top players are either gone, going or in the twilight of their careers.

Replacing the likes of Long, Cunningham, Sculthorpe, Joynt etc is always going to be hard, you've done well to have 13 years of success but its going to be a challenge to replace those players with ones as good. A period of transition is about to start - in fact its been going for a while. With luck you'll be better at it than my side but there's o denying it's going to happen and things will get worse before they get better.

Replacing Long and Cunningham is going to be a massive problem.

Hmm. I haven't read the entire thread, but has anyone else mentioned Long last night? Him storming off at the end of the game? From what I saw he didn't come over to the speccies, just headed straight for the dressing room....

Long walked over, aplauded the fans and turned down the tunnel.

Maybe he needed a ?
Maybe he'd took a knock and wanted to ice it?
Maybe he had to be somewhere?

He certainly applauded the fans.

Alright narky.

See my comment regarding the Saints reserves game today.

It is an observation.

Not so. We are losing Longy and Gilly (unless Kieron goes too). But we still have most of our 'top' players in the squad for next season. They just seem to have gone AWOL for reasons completely unknown to us fans.