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| I do have doubts over Moore tho.
He looks a ok player but noway near the level kc was or kc is now.
Maybe with a better team like saints Moore will make that level but I have my doubts.
Kc is huge in defence. He don't just tackle but 1 of a very few that puts in big hits.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"And?
Moore's time is now. KC has been a legend for us, but we need to give Moore a go. If we re-sign KC and lose Moore, we're shafted come the end of the season when KC retires.'"
I think Kez will call it a day anyway at end of the year... Just think he wants another title & CC before he goes! That'll make 6 SL 8CC 2 WCC... That'll do me tinks!
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| When has Cunningham played prop?
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| Why is everyone assuming that Moore wants to come back? If he's the main man at Hudds why would he want to come back and play second fiddle to Roby? Hudds may well be able to offer him more money than we can. It wouldn't surprise me if Moore plumped for staying with the Giants.
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| Quote ="McClennan" It wouldn't surprise me if Moore plumped for staying with the Giants.'"
Just what I was thinking.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"We can't really afford to have 3 hookers on the books though. Not whilst other areas need strengthening, like Prop and Backline.'"
If JC leaves then we can afford another big impact prop anyway, so no worries there. I think Lyon will come back in 2011, so we can carry on like this year until then. Jobs a good un!
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| Quote ="Ski"Maybe he wants to establish himself, be top dog, not wait for the decadence of the past to brushed away.'"
Maybe but the best thing for Saints would be KC for now and next season and Moore for the future.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Moore's OOC at the end of this season though, is he not? I don't think he'd re-sign with the carrot of another season out on loan just so we can be sentimental with KC.'"
I wouldn't say it is sentiment, KC is still a quality player without a doubt.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Why is everyone assuming that Moore wants to come back? If he's the main man at Hudds why would he want to come back and play second fiddle to Roby? Hudds may well be able to offer him more money than we can. It wouldn't surprise me if Moore plumped for staying with the Giants.'"
I dont think he would play second fiddle he would interchange as KC does now. If i was a player, the draw of possible trophies would be a big reason behind my choice of club
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I dont think he would play second fiddle he would interchange as KC does now. If i was a player, the draw of possible trophies would be a big reason behind my choice of club'"
I think maybe money will play big part in where he wants to play
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| IMO kc is still the best British hooker playing in super league.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think maybe money will play big part in where he wants to play'"
Well of course, but he wont be underpaid at saints and is more likely to get picked for england at saints than hudds
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Well of course, but he wont be underpaid at saints and is more likely to get picked for england at saints than hudds'"
Not sure saints will give him good deal. After all we don't know if he will even fit in at saints.
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| Quote ="St pete"Quote ="Saint Simon"Well of course, but he wont be underpaid at saints and is more likely to get picked for england at saints than hudds'"
Not sure saints will give him good deal. After all we don't know if he will even fit in at saints.'" '"
Surely Saints can see his potential and will wan't to keep a talented player. Moore's demands won't be that high anyway.
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Moore's demands won't be that high anyway.'"
They will be if Hudds value him at a much higher wage than we do.
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Quote ="St pete"
Surely Saints can see his potential and will wan't to keep a talented player. Moore's demands won't be that high anyway.'" '"
I think saints are in the same thought of me over Moore. I think they can't make there mind up over him.
Do you honstly think Moore can come even close to filling the gap left by kc?
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| Quote ="St pete"
I think saints are in the same thought of me over Moore. I think they can't make there mind up over him.
Do you honstly think Moore can come even close to filling the gap left by kc?'"
With the right coaching and experience around him who knows. But this season he has shown the potential that he could be a very good player.
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"With the right coaching and experience around him who knows. But this season he has shown the potential that he could be a very good player.'"
Every young player has potential but not everyone makes it.
Anyway round it we will never ever replace kc.
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| I think I've seen a few small signs of old father time beginning to catch up with KC already this season. He's nowhere near the payer he was defensively, I think he's missed more tackles this season than he as in his entire career. I also feel that he seems to feel it more when he gets hit these days. I can't see him wanting to put his body through another year of it.
To be fair to him, though, if he called it a day now, he wouldn't owe Saints a penny.
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| Quote ="St pete"We must be well under the cap.
Scully, talau, fozzard, bennet all left with only tony p coming in.
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But Graham and Roby became players of Man of Steel quality and therefore would have demanded a higher wage, so technically they were partially replaced. I think we have room for a world class centre (icon_wink.gif) but thats about it.
I'm sure that Moores contract ends at the end of the 2010 season. If we could keep KC on as coach to help develop him, we would have the best of both worlds.
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| If Moore is coming back he NEEDS a season under KCs wing. I think sacrificing Roby to play elsewhere is a small price to pay. Said it time and time again,Roby isn't a starting hooker and technically Moore is head and shoulders better.
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| Who says Giants would want to keep him?
They have David Faiumu (sp?) and Shaun Lunt and also Keal Carlisle coming through as well.
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| Quote ="THELAST3YARDS"Who says Giants would want to keep him?
They have David Faiumu (sp?) and Shaun Lunt and also Keal Carlisle coming through as well.'"
Good point, well made
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| If the best want to stay, then they stay, fairly simple.
Cunningham is one of the best players i have seen since watching rugby league.
His contribution to the team hasn't dropped, his work rate is still up there and his defence is as good as always.
If he wants to stay, it's a no brainer.
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| Quote ="St pete"Every young player has potential but not everyone makes it.
Anyway round it we will never ever replace kc.'" Your right no one can replace Cunningham but so far Moore looks like being the next best thing.
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