The bloke deserves a standing ovation.

Grand Final is confined to history, it's going to hot out there tomorrow for your big forwards, but what a game in prospect.....can't wait.

Possibly, but they had to get the ball wide at every opportunity because they got absolutely minced down the middle. Did Crosby even get into double figures for meters made? Plus we had turner, Flanagan and wellens directing our attack!! Haha

I couldn't care less about flower. What's done is done.

He's not good enough to warrant booing.



It would be like the Wiganers ganging up on Chris Morley or Simon Booth or Chris Dean.

We should be cheering loudly every time Flower gets the ball.

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This ^^.
It would wind the goons up even more.
Good luck Saints.

Flower's stats are appalling. At the rate Wane's going I'm certain one of his front line props will finish a match with ZERO carries.

Flower is working his way to ZERO, the little petal only 4 carries for 32 metres this week I believe.

Allowing for the fact that he got taken off with concussion and made 20 tackles, I agree it's pretty poor almost Masoe like, although Masoe has only managed more than 20 tackles twice in a game all season.

Mose is the biggest pudding in super league. He's the biggest player in the league and pretty mobile but couldn't break thru a paper bag.

Sky was saying he's 23st the other week but he doesn't run his weight, he runs like a 15st prop. His stats back thst up also. He Doesnt run his size at all. In a full strength saints team I wouldn't pick him in my 17.

Amor getting a little stick lately but the untouchable Mose isnt a patch on amor.

Mose and his likes have never been my type of forward, no more so than the modern game,but so many people rave about his likes, the other night commentators were overjoyed he had made 2 metres ???

I think the fact you're comparing your best and starting prop with our 3rd / 4th choice impact prop says everything about your prop weakness.

I think Mose earned his coin in the Wigan match, by not leaving that chase back for swift alone.

If he had Wigan would probably have scored.

It certainly was not a lazy effort chasing back.

99% of the other time he's been lazy and rubbish.

Correct. Notice he isn't comparing him to Walmsley is he.

What's happening with Mose? He was all set to join St George according to reports, then it's been on twitter that he's had a better offer and isn't going there.

St Pete might be influencing Saints to give him a contract extension.

Saints didn't want to keep him and didn't have any talks about a new deal at all. The was a point where mose wasn't going to make the 17 this year but injuries occurred.

Let's just say the club don't rate him as highly as some posters on here do. He's been a massive let down.

I think he had your burger at the barbeque and you've held a grudge ever since. 50 from 50 for us, always impacting a game. As a 23 stoner it's quite easy to get labelled as lazy, but he had a massive impact on the Grand Final and we do make gains off the back of his trundles. We'll miss him, even if he's not been outstanding.

Do you think he could be one of Salford's big signings to be announced tomorrow?

I know he doesn,t do a lot of carries, but I,ve seen a stat somewhere that he is the best forward in superleague for tackle busts per carry ratio something like 1 bust per 3.6 carries.
Will we ever see Ben Flower taking on Mose one on one this season.

Do any of you Saints fans not get infuriated with this st pete bloke? Everytime I pay a visit to this board, his smug attitude really comes across. 'I know everyone at Saints plus their cousins,their Aunts,Dogs,cats etc etc so my opinion is of more value than yours'.

Mose may not have been a huge hit for you. But for anyone to say he's been a 'massive let down' is surely from someone beyond all help.

Mugwump does, others have different values of tolerance when he goes into blinkered opinion mode. Its a saints forum which gets entertaining at times when the usual suspects kick off.

No, he's cool. I have to look after him at times when the lynch mob starts digging out the pitch forks. I think to think that unlike the other forums we're one of openness where everyone's opinions are valued.

I don't eat burgers. He's 23st and plays like 13st. He should be doing real damage the size and mobility he has but his impact is pretty much nothing.

He lasted 8 mins in his first spell in the grand final. His stats in that game was pretty awful as they are most weeks for such a big man.

We will miss his presence abd nothing else. Tasi will mate more meters, more tavkles and play much longer.

Maybe he ate KC burger ......


I hope he is salfords prop. It will make our game 17 v 16 next year if it is.