And Percical.

Bowen isn't missing. He's dropped.

Life is good thanks! yes down, but not out! - note I never have to lower myself to personal insults, which I see as real petty! it shows our great
game up.

Sorry forgot to declare that I am a Saints fan when I bought tickets from the DW because the North Stand was sold out.

Will IL be there? His real investment - Oxford United - got no game today

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Bowen is dropped - where's the evidence? He got shoulder and knee problems. And, it seems everybody has forgotten Flower is missing too. Then there's the half back problem at Wigan.

I'm amazed to pop onto the Saints board and find it's all excuses about injuries.

Great start boys as ever. Utterly pathetic from Turner. What the hell is Wellens doing? There is seriously absolutely no point in him playing, he's got zero mobility.

3-0 on the penalty count already, getting hammered. Only one of them was the right call.

If Saints win today it will look like 2 teams are breaking away from the rest ,just like 07 to 09 .Long way to go though . Hope it's good game

It would take a remarkable effort to win today. Halfbacks out, backup halfback out, Wigan being allowed to be 5 yards offside at every play the ball as well.

Fecks sake. We're going to have no players if this carries on. Hope he's okay there.

Clear try there.

Another ridiculously soft penalty. Hope he's going to even these up sometime?

Poor from Richards there.

Ridiculous penalty there. What does Turner do wrong? Stood square, hand square on the back of the guy in front of him and he blows up for a penalty.

We're playing dumb rugby. They're making little ground but we keep giving stupid penalties to grant them yards.

Brave half from us here. Wigan to be fair to them have been tactically perfect. They know there is a mismatch in the pack and their line speed has been amazing. They are offside 99% of the time, but if the ref is consistently ignoring it, they can make hay off it. Ridiculously we're being hammered on the penalty count.

Brave from us so far, the commitment is there and hopefully Wigan will tire as their line speed has to be taking it out of them. Our kicking game is inconsistent, some great, some very average. We need to be more composed near their line however, Wigan are shooting out of the line all the time to close us down. A bit more structure and a bit of a plan is required.

Most of them are ridiculously harsh however. The one on Mose for brushing against the Wigan player was a joke, as was the one on Turner near their line, he's penalising effort there and giving them a free pass out again.

Always going to be some crowd penalties for the home team in a sell-out Derby.

Our main problem is we look unlikely to score unless we get a couple of repeat sets in their ten metres. So I think we only have one more try in us. So we can't let Wigan score again.

Start with a stupid penalty. Deary me.

Wigan are so far offside it's not funny. They are pushing off the referee in the middle, stood yards in front of him and charging off as soon as the ball moves towards the floor. I don't think they've been penalised for it once yet.

Ginger Farrell is four or five yards off every play the ball. Someone needs to get into the ref about it.

We look tired. That chase was a bit laboured. Down to 2 subs too. Need some heroism now.

Why is that fool calling him 'Rocky Hampshire'? Keep your nicknames to yourselves and be professional.

I know he's in an unfamiliar position, but Turner's having a shocker.

Whereas Roby showing some of his old class.

Incredibly brave so far, Wigan should be winning comfortably. The pack is working overtime to keep us in this. Got to worry about the last 20 with the injuries taking their toll. The ref isn't giving us anything though, none of the soft penalties he's giving them. Got to worry about the lineup for Monday too, Hull with the extra days rest won't be easy and we've lost Wello and maybe Greenwood already.