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| Quote ="St pete"It's pretty obvious that the video ref has more of a chance getting it right than the ref who has a split second to decide. The video can take few mins wirh different angles.
If that's your opinion, you must think the video ref should be scrapped then?'"
I think the video ref should be allowed to talk to refs throughout the match without necessarily having to watch 300 replays to make a decision.
I liked the rule in aus whereby if the video ref couldn't see anything conclusive within a couple of replays then the on field decision stood.
I don't mind going to the video ref, but I feel they over complicate it far too much and take too long.
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| from my angle as soon as he hit it I thought it was creeping wide.
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| Bentham was stood in a fantastic position to judge whether it went over.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Bentham was stood in a fantastic position to judge whether it went over.'"
Put yourself in his shoes. Your ref in a big challenge cup game live on the tv. You've already gone to the video ref 4 times at least during the game, it's last few mins and Brough hits a drop goal that is clearly close to the post, it's gone higher than the sticks (which makes it harder to judge), your gut feeling is it's missed but Brough and hudds celebrate.
What would you do?
By going to the video ref, it gives them a better look at it and it also takes the pressure off you. It's simple IMO.
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| The best view was from the camera behind the posts as its dead centre. The drop goal should have been allowed but sometimes you get the calls and others you don't. The poor part was not going to the video ref, there was no excuse for that at such a crucial stage of the game.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"The best view was from the camera behind the posts as its dead centre. The drop goal should have been allowed but sometimes you get the calls and others you don't. The poor part was not going to the video ref, there was no excuse for that at such a crucial stage of the game.'"
I just can't believe he didn't go to the video ref. He used him all day and didn't on the most important call of the match.
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| I think Brough needs to sit down and watch how Luke Walsh executes a drop goal.
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| They made a reference to the rules in the commentary if I remember right & I think it was Jonathan Davies who said that if the ball goes over level with the post but too high then it is regarded as going over.
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| Quote ="Albion"I think Brough needs to sit down and watch how Luke Walsh executes a drop goal.'"
Hudds showed lack of composer where we didn't panic.
Walsh was poor today with boot tho.
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| Quote ="St pete"I just can't believe he didn't go to the video ref. He used him all day and didn't on the most important call of the match.'"
I only saw the last 20 minutes so can't comment yet on the other video ref decisions. The sending off was correct, but I think it was a tackle that went wrong (no intent) as Ferres was trying to turn Lomax on his back. However it did finish up being dangerous and he should get a minimum three game ban.
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| Quote ="St pete"Walsh was poor today with boot tho.'"
He was, but I'll forgive him
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| Quote ="roader"How can in line with the post be over. If it was lower and hits the post it may not go over.'"
The Laws of the Game say if the ball goes over the top of the post it counts as a goal.
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| Quote ="St pete"Hudds showed lack of composer where we didn't panic.
Walsh was poor today with boot tho.'"
Get the feeling he was rushed back and hadn't had much time in practice beforehand. He kicked the one that mattered though
His kick choices were good, but there were a few that were poorly executed - I think they'll pick up again in the next few weeks.
Lance was exceptional, it has to be said.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"
Lance was exceptional, it has to be said.'"
Lance was new Lance for the first 20 and old Lance for the remaining 60.
However a lot of players struggled today so unfair to single him out for specific criticism.
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| Quote ="Gerry Mander"Lance was new Lance for the first 20 and old Lance for the remaining 60.
However a lot of players struggled today so unfair to single him out for specific criticism.'"
Agreed
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| Quote ="Gerry Mander"Lance was new Lance for the first 20 and old Lance for the remaining 60.
However a lot of players struggled today so unfair to single him out for specific criticism.'"
Ball in hand I agree, his kicking game however was superb. On more than a few occasions did I think he hit it too long, only for it to scuff up and hold in the in goal area (not that it mattered, as Huddersfield were walking down the pitch!)
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| Quote ="Tuco"One problem with League over here is generally the posts are not tall enough.Look at the NRL and even Union's upright's,they're almost twice the height of our posts bar Headingley.Was only a matter of time before something like this happened.
RFL need to increase the mimimum height allowed.'"
Spot on. Didn't Iestyn Harris hit the top of the post with a conversion attempt at the same ground in a challenge cup semi final?
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| Agree that lance was good with ball in hand and his kicking game was very good again. But his defence today was pretty Poor! I counted at least 8 missed tackles and most of them was against Murphy. Hopefully a minor blip as last week he was exceptional in defence.
I thought we got complacent after we went 8-0 up and then seemed to put our heads down and give up when it went to 16-8 until the sending off which gave us belief again.
overall it's the worst we have played this season bar Wakey away and we still won! Sign of a champion side!
And how good is it to have a half back who can win us a game like that despite having one of his weaker games. It's something we haven't had since long.
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| It looked like a goal to me. But I feel enormous sympathy for Bentham who had to make the decision on the spot.
Bottom line today is that we were the second best team, and after the first 15 minutes looked pretty poor. That was our get-out-of-jail-free card, and we shouldn't try to rely on that too often.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"It looked like a goal to me. But I feel enormous sympathy for Bentham who had to make the decision on the spot.
Bottom line today is that we were the second best team, and after the first 15 minutes looked pretty poor. That was our get-out-of-jail-free card, and we shouldn't try to rely on that too often.'"
That's the point mate, he didn't need to make the call on the spot, he had the option of the video ref
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| The only thing that matters is the final score. We won , they lost.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"The only thing that matters is the final score. We won , they lost.
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Something that's been pleasing in the last two weeks is our composure. The last few years we've not been great when a game us close near the end and have panicked but today and last week against Leeds we was very composed.
Hudds was total opposite today and bombed drop goal attempts.
The old saints that was successful always stayed composed and often popped up with the win.
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| Quote ="St pete"Something that's been pleasing in the last two weeks is our composure. The last few years we've not been great when a game us close near the end and have panicked but today and last week against Leeds we was very composed.
Hudds was total opposite today and bombed drop goal attempts.
The old saints that was successful always stayed composed and often popped up with the win.'"
Indeed, being able to win when your not playing that well and as you say being able to win those tight battles when you need a cool head is a very good sign for the season
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"The best view was from the camera behind the posts as its dead centre. '"
Camera behind the posts at which end?
The one that was at the opposite end to the posts Brough kicked toward, showed it missing. The one behind the same end kicked towards showed it sneaking in.
Problem is that the ball was arcing away from the sticks; it started off inside the line of the posts, ended up outside. As neither camera could pinpoint the exact position of the ball at the point it crossed the tryline (and both offered differing perspectives), we cannot be sure whether it was a drop goal or not.
End of.
The only thing clear is that Huddersfield didn't deserve to lose today.
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| Quote ="Th'ump"Camera behind the posts at which end?
The one that was at the opposite end to the posts Brough kicked toward, showed it missing. The one behind the same end kicked towards showed it sneaking in.
Problem is that the ball was arcing away from the sticks; it started off inside the line of the posts, ended up outside. As neither camera could pinpoint the exact position of the ball at the point it crossed the tryline (and both offered differing perspectives), we cannot be sure whether it was a drop goal or not.
End of.
The only thing clear is that Huddersfield didn't deserve to lose today.'"
Rogues opinion is worthless , his old eyes struggle to see through his cherry and $hite tainted lenses. If Brough had missed by 20 feet he would have found (made up) some other reason why we should have lost.
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