I don't think many think the will be a big improvement and IMO it could get worse before it gets better but be honest and admit we couldn't go on how we was going.

We've been awful in every department this year.

Agree the players Should raise their game this weekend, but you only have to look at Powell at Broncos it is taking him time to bring the players together, so do not expect everything to just be Great overnight.

I see Brown and Huddersfield have put out a statement that he is going no where and will stick to his contract until the end of October, there were rumours that it was hoped the Giants may cash in and accept a fee to release him early.

If you could bottle that and give us a money back garauntee I'd take your hand off for a deal like that. Lose to Leeds, beat Wigan and Wire. Champion.

Right, so getting worse before it gets better is somehow better than it just, well, getting better?

Yup! Everyone's a winner!

Better than it not getting better at all.

Nope. I want us to beat Leeds as well. So I wouldn't be a winner.

Agreed. But you can't see into the future and so you have no clue as to what would have happened next week, never mind 'at all'.

cash in? i think they will make more money with brown doing well in comps then what we would be willing to pay in compo

i dont care if we lose.....honest.

like i always say its the performance that counts and thats whats cost royce not just the last 5 games but the whole season we have looked under par.

we need to at least look like we care unlike the bradford game.

with all that said it would great getting on over leeds

Sorry, I was having a rant as i was fed up of the bitching and moaning obviously

Possibly. I feel its more likely we'll improve under a fresh regieme than if we'd have given Royce more time.

Well on current form somethings got to happen and bl**dy quick.

You have every chance of beating us on sunday

From the look of the highlights of the SL Show whoever is defending left centre will have the mighty task of trying to defend Watkins who is a man in form.

Leeds are playing some good stuff, but I can't see how we will win unless there's been a MASSIVE transformation through the week.

Hardaker isn't looking too shabby on the other side either. Throw in Webb, McGuire and Burrow and they've got threats from one touchline to the other. We'll have to show a lot of composure in defence and, perhaps more importantly, a bit of mongrel up front.

If we get on top of them early on, dominate the ball and territory then it will limit the opportunity for them sorts of players to cause havoc and give us a chance.

The chances of that happening: very slim I'd say.

Leeds are a team in form who like to promote the ball, it's a massive test for us.

We'll not be favourites, but our ball retention has been ok and our defence on the whole hasn't been bad the last couple of weeks, but presently we're not doing anything with the ball to make the oppo uncomfortable, meaning they're fresh to attack us. Let's see what our new masterminds can get on the table. They've a week's worth of practice to do so.

A composed defence can push Leeds into lateral play and if we can frustrate Webb at 2nd pivot, he can stink things up for them.

Got to be part of the game plan

the real worry is not the defance but when we have ball in hand, poor kick chase, not a great deal of go forward and the worst is the set plays in the 20 which i think blackbrook under 9s could defend against

with that said i think we will have to up our game but we do have to many good players to throw the towel in and the accept the defeat now

Probably been asked on here elsewhere, but do you guys have Roby and Soliola back?

Right near the bottom it says LMS & Roby have a good chance of returning on Sunday. saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1812 Not sure about Sia though.

Right near the bottom it says LMS & Roby have a good chance of returning on Sunday. saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1812 Not sure about Sia though.

Roby playing according to this:
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