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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Basically we where just a whole team for once. Everyone played to their ability. Even with some guys out there who probably would not normally play. ie Wellens - ribs, Clough and TP - diseased midweek.
Lomax injured on Friday night.
All stood up and provided the effort, even if they had lost I would have been pleased with the effort.'" TP was deseised? Good god. Clough stood up and got himself back on, but Perry still only played minimal minutes. Jammer pulled up the slack though.
The more stories you hear about Lomax the more emarkable a yongster he sounds.
We know he plays with a steel plate in his head.
Clarke's anecdote about him taking the refs exam and getting 100% was interesting.
Someone, (i think Ski) posted a story about seeing him out on the town with his mates, and he was drinking water when they were all sloshed.
Royces words about his confidence in their meeting midweek.
Add to that he seems like a committed defender as well as a good attacker, he sounds like the type of kid any coach would want.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"TP was deseised? Good god. Clough stood up and got himself back on, but Perry still only played minimal minutes. Jammer pulled up the slack though.
The more stories you hear about Lomax the more emarkable a yongster he sounds.
We know he plays with a steel plate in his head.
Clarke's anecdote about him taking the refs exam and getting 100% was interesting.
Someone, (i think Ski) posted a story about seeing him out on the town with his mates, and he was drinking water when they were all sloshed.
Royces words about his confidence in their meeting midweek.
Add to that he seems like a committed defender as well as a good attacker, he sounds like the type of kid any coach would want.'"
I think the opposition will bring a howitzer to stop this guy next time!!
Or is that too much
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"TP was deseised? Good god. Clough stood up and got himself back on,'"
Well rumour was one of them had tonsilitus (sorry for spelling). Not sure which it was????
But both were rumoured to be doubts to play. TP was great going forwards and the more we get of that the better.
Looks like the injured are still a few weeks away so same team again next week for mine. Nice not to have any injuries after this one for a change.
Lets hope we don't rush people back before they are ready, the league is looking very fluid at the moment with teams up and down.
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| You guys have some exceptional young talent epitomised by Lomax. Looked like he had been playing SH his whole life.
Whenever you lot apparently fear been hammered by Leeds you beat us (apart from the GFs of course )...and beat us convincingly.
Is it all a thinly disguised attempt to lull Leeds into a false sense of security ? Meli looked a good centre with power and a decent pass or two to his goalkicking/ juggling sensation wingman.....Weller is a great positional FB and looked class.....what's wrong with y'all ? Stop ya complaining.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"TP was deseised? Good god. Clough stood up and got himself back on, but Perry still only played minimal minutes. Jammer pulled up the slack though.
The more stories you hear about Lomax the more emarkable a yongster he sounds.
We know he plays with a steel plate in his head.
Clarke's anecdote about him taking the refs exam and getting 100% was interesting.
Someone, (i think Ski) posted a story about seeing him out on the town with his mates, and he was drinking water when they were all sloshed.
Royces words about his confidence in their meeting midweek.
Add to that he seems like a committed defender as well as a good attacker, he sounds like the type of kid any coach would want.'"
You're correct about Lomax not drinking, but then again I am led to believe that Eastmond doesn't drink either.
As for Lomax being a Wiganer, sadly not, all his family are staunch Saints supporters.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You're correct about Lomax not drinking, but then again I am led to believe that Eastmond doesn't drink either.
As for Lomax being a Wiganer, sadly not, all his family are staunch Saints supporters.'"
As you've seen more of lomax, eastmond and wheeler than me.
Who did you feel was the best and why?
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| I've said on these boards before that I've never seen Lomax do anything to justify his positive reputation, but last night he did. If he can do more of that sort of stuff, and stay injury-free, then getting rid of Eastmond's salary and ego will be a decent bit of business.
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| Lomax did nothing more last night than he did on his debut at Wakefield away almost two years ago.
The common denominator in both those games was getting lots of ball close to the ruck where his footwork plays havoc with big forwards that don't have good lateral movement in defence.
He's wasted at centre and wing because he's up against players who can re-adjust quicker and have more pace.
His sidestep is a bit reminiscent of Lee Briers'. Unlike Briers, however, he has enough pace to exploit it.
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| No no no.
All our young players are below average, Saddened! told me so.
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| Jonny was phenomenal last night. Has been one of our few bright sparks all season at centre, but really relished the responsibility of playing 7 and could have a big future there in the halves.
Amazing what a difference it makes when you have a 7 who takes the ball to the line and plays square!
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| I've been bleating on about putting the kids and particulaly lomax in the halves since his phenominal display against Bradford last year! The lad is class and MUST get an extended run at 7
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"TP was deseised? Good god. Clough stood up and got himself back on, but Perry still only played minimal minutes. Jammer pulled up the slack though.
The more stories you hear about Lomax the more emarkable a yongster he sounds.
We know he plays with a steel plate in his head.
Clarke's anecdote about him taking the refs exam and getting 100% was interesting.
Someone, (i think Ski) posted a story about seeing him out on the town with his mates, and he was drinking water when they were all sloshed.
Royces words about his confidence in their meeting midweek.
Add to that he seems like a committed defender as well as a good attacker, he sounds like the type of kid any coach would want.'"
TBH a lot of people get 100% or very close to it on the refs exam, I've taken it myself. And a lot of the younger lads that are breaking into SL teams these days don't drink when they're out, which is obviously the sensible thing to do. There are still some though that do which I can't get my head around considering it has an impact on their short term careers.
That's not taking away from Lomax as a future player though, he looked very impressive last night. He's not the kind of person who's going to let breaking into your first team go to his head either which is a massive bonus from my experience.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Lomax was m.o.m. by a long way tonight.'"
Totally agree
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"No no no.
All our young players are below average, Saddened! told me so.'"
Given our very sketchy form this season when I saw Burrow & Sinfield against Gaskell & Lomax I was worried it was going to be too big an ask given our form, I know Leeds haven't been at their best this year and had injuries too but with Webb, Senior, Hall, Sinfield, Burrow, Buderus, Jones-Buchanan, Huaraki, Cross, Lauatiti, Ablett, Burgess, Kirke they certainly had the experience over us by miles.
I am absolutely delighted with/for our young players, they have certainly proved that they are talented and capable. It is only one game and for them it is about building on this performance and us kicking on as a team, am sure Gaskell's confidence will have been boosted immeasurably with his own performance and having a commited and willing partner to work with.
Lomax was a joy to watch, willing to take on the line, pass confidently left and right, side step through, support others, he's very strong too, often getting through the first man on his feet and carrying on, he's a way to go to be a 7 but it was great for the team to have a pivot working so hard.
Team spirit and scrambling defence was the best I've seen for a while, I know its a bit moot after Leeds scored anyway but prior to McShane getting over how on earth did we stop Leeds scoring? There looked like a massive overlap and loads of space when Senior took the pass, its been a long time since I've seen us do that.
Things are certainly much rosier, 4 very winnable games in a row with the correct attitude and with Wilkin, Soliola, LMS and Pryce to come back into the squad hopefully we can maintain this type of performance from now on.
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| Quote ="MDW12"TBH a lot of people get 100% or very close to it on the refs exam, I've taken it myself. And a lot of the younger lads that are breaking into SL teams these days don't drink when they're out, which is obviously the sensible thing to do. There are still some though that do which I can't get my head around considering it has an impact on their short term careers.
That's not taking away from Lomax as a future player though, he looked very impressive last night. He's not the kind of person who's going to let breaking into your first team go to his head either which is a massive bonus from my experience.'"
I can't remember the referee that was mentioned, but Clarke said that he said Lomax was the only person he'd met that got 100%
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| The important thing now is continuity. Let's hope the lads don't pick up injuries and Simmons refrains from playing musical chairs positionally.
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| Quote ="Poyser11"I can't remember the referee that was mentioned, but Clarke said that he said Lomax was the only person he'd met that got 100%'"
All the more reason for him never to get penalised, then.
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| Quote ="Poyser11"I can't remember the referee that was mentioned, but Clarke said that he said Lomax was the only person he'd met that got 100%'"
All Billingers are intelligent people, ask Agent Mulder.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"All Billingers are intelligent people, ask Agent Mulder.'"
It depends which side of Billinge you belong to though. I am on the good side. While you turned to the dark side. lol I saw the light, Rogues.
No matter what part of Billinge Lomax comes from - he turned to the right side.
St. Helens motto - EX TERRA LUCEM Out of the earth comes light.
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| Quote ="St pete"As you've seen more of lomax, eastmond and wheeler than me.
Who did you feel was the best and why?'"
i've always thought wheeler was the better player, but struggled with injuries.. eastmond was simply outstanding week in, week out for the first part of last season.. lomax is probably just behind the two of them, but learning fast, at least when it comes to playing at that level consistently.. i think a lot will come down to injuries in the future, but lomax has all the potential to be a class player..
i think wheeler, eastmond (albeit not at the moment), lomax and foster are certainly a cut above the rest of the youngsters in the squad
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| Quote ="Poyser11"I can't remember the referee that was mentioned, but Clarke said that he said Lomax was the only person he'd met that got 100%'"
Proof that refs know absolutely sod all about the game?
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| Quote ="paulshorpe"i've always thought wheeler was the better player, but struggled with injuries.. eastmond was simply outstanding week in, week out for the first part of last season.. lomax is probably just behind the two of them, but learning fast, at least when it comes to playing at that level consistently.. i think a lot will come down to injuries in the future, but lomax has all the potential to be a class player..
i think wheeler, eastmond (albeit not at the moment), lomax and foster are certainly a cut above the rest of the youngsters in the squad'"
I mean at youth level.
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| Minor point of order, we have all been congratulating Lomax on a great SH perfomrance last nihgt, when in fact Gaskell playd at SH for most of the game, with Lomax at 6. I realise the positions are failry interchangeable, but is he a better 6 than 7?
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Minor point of order, we have all been congratulating Lomax on a great SH perfomrance last nihgt, when in fact Gaskell playd at SH for most of the game, with Lomax at 6. I realise the positions are failry interchangeable, but is he a better 6 than 7?'"
I don't think it matters. As a pair they worked well together. Granted, they won't always work that well together - they are young and inexperienced at that level - but I think it's the partnership that counts and they complemented each other well.
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| Had a good game and handled the responsibility well, but so did Gaskell who had a pretty faultless game.
Unless injuries hit, I'd be giving them a run in the positions until Pryce is fit.
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