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| Great coach, as proved at Catalan and as proved at Saints given what he's had to work with.
Now if only he wore Ray Bans, punched the air and got friendly with the cheerleaders - we could be looking at a living legend.
Sadly, I think he's taken on a poisoned chalice at Bulls.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Translation: the fans who wanted rid of Potter just hold a different opinion of him than you do.'"
Not having a dig and not looking for a heated debate( im just back from a 7 day ban) but can i just ask:
Why don't you like/rate potter?
Do you not think he's done well this year with our current injury problems?
Would DA have done a better job?
Do you feel he has done anything good in his 2yrs at saints ?
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| Quote ="Mr. Messy"... got the gameplan spot on last night.
Down the middle, nothing fancy, territory and big defence.
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That's the only game plan he has!
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"Great coach, as proved at Catalan and as proved at Saints given what he's had to work with.
Now if only he wore Ray Bans, punched the air and got friendly with the cheerleaders - we could be looking at a living legend.
Sadly, I think he's taken on a poisoned chalice at Bulls.'"
I think he's on a no lose situation at bulls next year. He can't do worse than the two guys they have had in charge this year.
If he gets the bulls into the play offs then nobody at the bulls can moan.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think he's on a no lose situation at bulls next year. He can't do worse than the two guys they have had in charge this year.
If he gets the bulls into the play offs then nobody at the bulls can moan.'"
Old team, getting older. And, from an outsider's perspective, something seems to be just 'wrong' within the club.
If they do make the play-offs, then I'd say that once again Potter will have proven his credentials as a quality coach. I think it's too big an ask, though.
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"Old team, getting older. And, from an outsider's perspective, something seems to be just 'wrong' within the club.
If they do make the play-offs, then I'd say that once again Potter will have proven his credentials as a quality coach. I think it's too big an ask, though.'"
I'd put money on them making the eight next year.
They have signed a few ok players that will improve them a great deal next year. Also orford will be fit which is massive for them.
Bryn and elima will improve there pack.
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| Quote ="St pete"Not having a dig and not looking for a heated debate( im just back from a 7 day ban) but can i just ask:
Why don't you like/rate potter?
Do you not think he's done well this year with our current injury problems?
Would DA have done a better job?
Do you feel he has done anything good in his 2yrs at saints ?'"
I will repeat, since you have just returned from holiday ( ): if you want to know what I think of Potter then you'll have to go searching. I really cannot be bothered repeating what I have said before in different discussions and I do not want the usual tirade of insults for expressing an opinion which doesn't go down well with some on here. I'm sure if you think about then you will remember the points I've put forward before now. You've disagreed with them often enough!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I will repeat, since you have just returned from holiday (
): if you want to know what I think of Potter then you'll have to go searching. I really cannot be bothered repeating what I have said before in different discussions and I do not want the usual tirade of insults for expressing an opinion which doesn't go down well with some on here. I'm sure if you think about then you will remember the points I've put forward before now. You've disagreed with them often enough!'"
I have only disagreed on the fact you don't think he's done a very good job at saints.
I don't know all your opinions on why.
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| Quote ="St pete"I have only disagreed on the fact you don't think he's done a very good job at saints.
I don't know all your opinions on why.'"
Some people always used to believe the world was flat, no matter what was said. Sometimes, it is best just to let them worry about falling off the edge.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Some people always used to believe the world was flat, no matter what was said. Sometimes, it is best just to let them worry about falling off the edge.'"
You're assuming the people worried.
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| Granted its from someone who doesn't see saints every week, but Potter seems to have kept you at a similar standard (results wise) whilst losing key personell and not replacing them with new signings. Long was the heartbeat of your side, and then add that to the injuries you've had this year to finish 2nd surely constitutes a very successful season.
In my opinion the least he deserved was another year with the raft of quality signings your making. The youngsters he's developed will stand you in good stead for years to come, and your filling the gaps with quality signings.
For me, your the team to beat next year (dependant on your new coach)
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| Quote ="St pete"I'd put money on them making the eight next year.
They have signed a few ok players that will improve them a great deal next year. Also orford will be fit which is massive for them.
Bryn and elima will improve there pack.'"
Like salford's cast off Sibbet.
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| Quote ="St pete"Not having a dig and not looking for a heated debate( im just back from a 7 day ban) but can i just ask:'"
Her arguments have tended to go like this:
Quote Why don't you like/rate potter?'"
He isn't Daniel Anderson, isn't as emotive as Anderson and does not look as good in sunglasses.
Quote Do you not think he's done well this year with our current injury problems?'"
No. The players have won the matches, Potter has lost all our games due to not being Daniel Anderson.
Quote Would DA have done a better job?'"
Yes.
Quote Do you feel he has done anything good in his 2yrs at saints ?'"
No.
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| Saintsfan, what are you, like 12? I dont think ive come across a more childish poster than yourself. People are asking you, your reasons and you just stamp your feet
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Like salford's cast off Sibbet.
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I'm willing to put money on the bulks to make top eight.
You care to have a bet ? Maybe you and saintsfan can chip in together!
As you both think potter is a rubbish coach taking over a rubbish team, you can't lose!!!
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| Read back over some of the threads from the first few weeks of the season and it becomes very clear very quickly who are the rational posters with a clue are and who are the knee jerkers without one.
Potter has done an incredible job this year in the circumstances, it's undeniable. That's not to say some of the latter category above won't try to, mind.
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| Quote ="KCtheKing"Saintsfan, what are you, like 12? I dont think ive come across a more childish poster than yourself. People are asking you, your reasons and you just stamp your feet'"
Hmm. That's right.
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| Quote ="inside_man"In my opinion the least he deserved was another year with the raft of quality signings your making. '"
I wonder if it's ever crossed anyone's mind that he might not have actually wanted another year at Saints? He might have wanted to go back to Australia, just like he said, but there were no jobs there and so he went back to Bradford. Or maybe he wanted to go to Bradford all along but was biding his time in St Helens. Who knows?
Who cares?
Not me. I'm looking forward to seeing what Rolls can do, especially with the young guys who have settled in well to the first team, having been developed by our great youth system, one of if not the best in British RL at present.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Hmm. That's right.'"
Thought so, duly noted. 12 year olds havent really developed mentally enough to give rational explanations so I will just ignore everything you say.
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| Quote ="KCtheKing"Thought so, duly noted. 12 year olds havent really developed mentally enough to give rational explanations so I will just ignore everything you say.'"
Thank the lord for that.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Read back over some of the threads from the first few weeks of the season and it becomes very clear very quickly who are the rational posters with a clue are and who are the knee jerkers without one.
Potter has done an incredible job this year in the circumstances, it's undeniable. That's not to say some of the latter category above won't try to, mind.'"
I liked DA and thought he brought saints on from taking over basil but I doubt DA would have done any better than potter.
If we are all honest, the last two years has prob been our worst squads we've had since super league started.
In the past we've left big names out of our 17, this year we've struggled to get at 17 on the field.
Potter still has some great players here but just look atthe diffrence in class potter has had to work with to our previous coaches.
Potter has never moaned about lack of signings he's been able to make, never moaned about injuries, he's just got on with the job.
His first season was pretty poor at times but I think the players and potter have now adapted to each other now and it shows on the pitch.
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| Sometimes it takes SaintsFan a little bit longer to come around to our way of thinking. When we post our opinions and find out perhaps we have not got a majority viewpoint as other posters, we usually rethink and usually "back off" from the topic. SaintsFan carries on regardless leaving no avenue to escape from, which ends up in tit for tat messages. He/She does have some good observations/opinions though most of the time of late.
Anyway, back on topic. What concerns me is all these signings that Bradford Bulls have made, do we assume Mick Potter is in on this with his future club and possibly not 100% focussed on Saints during the play offs, ie already working for the Bulls in some limited capacity.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Sometimes it takes SaintsFan a little bit longer to come around to our way of thinking, when we post our opinions and find out perhaps we have not got a majority viewpoint as other posters, we usually rethink and usually "back off" from the topic. SaintsFan carries on regardless leaving no avenue to escape from, which ends up in tit for tat messages. He does have some good observations/opinions though most of the time of late.
Anyway, back on topic. What concerns me is all these signings that Bradford Bulls have made, do we assume Mick Potter is in on this with his future club and possibly not 100% focussed on Saints during the play offs, ie already working for the Bulls in some limited capacity.'"
He is a she.
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| So basically, Saintsfan has hatred for Mick Potter because he has no personality?
Jeez, I hope they are aware that Sizzler makes Potter look like the most charismatic person in history and thats before we even touch on what the West Tigers fans think about him.
I expect a "Sizzler out" thread to be started by Saintsfan, around January time.
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| Quote ="St pete"He is a she.
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Lessons learnt, I,ll "back off "from this one then, if thats OK. (Original post re-edited for accuracy)
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