Wellens

gardner

gidley

wheeler

meli

pryce

eastmond

graham

Moore

fozzard

soliola

wilkin

roby



fa'asavalu

Hargreaves

puletua

Cunningham/clough

Seeing that squad i am not very optimistic.....we best be up for it and heads screwed on for the full 80!

We definetely need Soliola and Gidley back in the side, as our centres have looked a bit lightweight in their absense. With those two fit and the return of Wello, we should have enough to turn Wire over.

That's him the player with the most tackle busts this season and makes more metres per carry than Graham.

Well spotted.

Wheeler's done a fine job. He's far from lightweight. And we don't need Soliola back for Warrington. He has only played for 40 minutes this season and so will not be match fit. In fact, I'd be happy not to see him until after our next three games have been and gone as I think he'd be more of a liability than anything else. We could definitely do with Gidley back though but only if he's fully fit. It's no good putting people back on the field who still have niggles from their injury as that will only compound the problem in the future IMO.

So what? We're only six games in. Graham is known for his durability. See how they compare in another six rounds and I may think that Graham will struggle to get the metre maker award for the third season running.

Fielden made more tackle busts and more metres per carry than Graham last season. Fielden also made more tackles.

...and the one playing for a new contract?

And if he carries on like he has done then he deserves one (at the right cost)

Interesting, but Fielden only made a princely 9cm more than Graham per carry despite carrying the ball 305 times less in 4 more appearances - you would think he would have made many more metres per carry given the comparative workloads.



Fielden's tackle busts are good because his style is often to run in and bounce back then go again. This would be supported by the stats - he made zero clean breaks to Graham's 2.



Fielden made more tackles as he played more games. Graham made more tackles per game than Fielden. Edit: actually that's not quite true if you include marker tackles (as you should) - Fielden does a lot of work there.



Graham scored 7 tries to Fielden's none.



Graham missed less tackles, made fewer errors and gave away fewer penalties despite playing longer spells (and presumably getting more fatigued) than Fielden.



I know which I'd take

If there was ever proof that stats don't tell the full story then this is it.

Both of them, they would be a good foil for each other.



I wasn't having a go at Graham, just pointing out that Fielden is nowhere near as poor as many fans would have you believe.

I think that's because, despite his stats, people saw him have some woeful games last season with dropped ball and penalties at vital times.



No doubt he puts a shift in every week though and is still one of the best in the land. His days of powering through to the try line seem long gone (as no tries all last season would support) but he certainly does the job of a good prop.



Haven't seen Wigan play on TV yet this year, but sounds like he's having a bit of a renaissance under MM and finally has the the majority of Wigan fans on side.

Rogues why are you even debating it. Graham over glass jaw anyday, goes without saying.

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Both of them, they would be a good foil for each other. I wasn't having a go at Graham, just pointing out that Fielden is nowhere near as poor as many fans would have you believe.'" he's not up to scratch pal, here he is compared to paul clough, a 21 yr old backrow/prop and he still doesnt come out on top, lots of errors too www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Both of them, they would be a good foil for each other. I wasn't having a go at Graham, just pointing out that Fielden is nowhere near as poor as many fans would have you believe.'" he's not up to scratch pal, here he is compared to paul clough, a 21 yr old backrow/prop and he still doesnt come out on top, lots of errors too www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

Is releasing half of them from their contracts an option?

Fingers crossed www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... elens.html

Fingers crossed www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... elens.html

Awesome.



Just what team do you pick if we're at full strength? I am honestly struggling.

1 Wellens

2 Gardner

3 Gidds

4 Wheeler

5 Meli

6 Pryce

7 Kyle

8 Graham

9 Cunningham

10 Hargreaves

11 Clough

12 Flannery

13 Wilkin



14 Puletua

15 Roby

16 Maurie

17 Soliola



.Ive gone for Big impact off the bench.

The backrow and outside backs are set for a mullering. I'd put Puletua in there for his size, with Jammer and Fozzy Bear, with Soliola rotating with him along with Maurie and Clough.

Soliola and Gidley won't play. The team will be:



1 - Wellens

2 - Gardner

3- Wheeler

4 - Dean

5 - Meli

6 - Pryce

7 - Eastmond

8 - Graham

9 - Moore

10 - Fozzard

11 - Puletua

12 - Wilkin

13 - Roby



14 - Flannery

15 - Cunningham

16 - Dixon

17 - Fa'asavalu.

With our supposed p[iiss[/ipoor squad depth, surely the first 17 should pick itself with all the flotsam and jetsam we have these days?

I don't really pay much attention to Saddened to be honest with you.

When did he say he would have Fielden over Graham? That's right, he didn't.

One or two deluded people still around I see. A crushing 40 point smattering at the hands of the Wolfs and I'll expect your 'I wanna join Team Saddened!' PM to arrive by 10 on Friday night.