I've got very good idea who you refer about.

I didn't at any point in my post say that every players uses these drugs, I said it goes on and everybody knows it does.

The tip of the iceberg comment was made by Cullen.

Last year didn't dunnerman(spelling) go back to oz and say it's rife in super league? Didn't he also say that players get tipped off by club, players and others when the testers are coming. He also said players are told by clubs to stay at home injured when the testers are due.

I'm sure I read that, but could be wrong.

He did.

On the 700 tests, that means that less than 10% are tested.
Just take a Superleague, 14, teams, 27 rounds, 17 players = 6426 instances.
Add International and out of competition tests (instances) then the cheats have a 90%+ plus chance of avoiding getting caught.

Some of the Superleague money has to be withheld from clubs an used for more testing. The testers should just arrive at any club during training and test all the players.

I heard a rumour two seasons ago where the players at a club got to know the testers were going to the training session. Two players phoned in sick, but they played at the weekend.
Whether it's true or not, who knows but Andrew Dunemann obviously had his suspicions.

You have to wonder if the rugby football league would want all drug cheats caught if its as common as cullen says.

What nationality? Kiwi?

The seems to be a lot of kiwis start off as wingers then move into pack.

Not within 12 months

The lad may just have had a growth spurt and worked hard on the weights, but I've never seen it happen so quickly in all my time of watching RL.

Who? pm please

You are one bitter little *osse*

Wasn't he injured last year? He was caught in November, so perhaps he's taken them to get up to speed in pre season training?

quite possibly, but with a deal signed, why would you?

Those were my thoughts and I posted the em on a couple of sites. If as Paul Cullen said players thought they were untraceable then Newton at best has been badly advised. Maybe under the urine test they were but under blood tests they can now be found.

Either way a ban will be rightfully handed out if the second test proves positive.

Apparently a second test is not needed because he has confessed. Nor is the hearing needed either, for the same reason.

So you don't look weak in front of your new team mates? Because you don't think you can live up to the reputation you have?

Plenty of reasons really.

all dumb, but there you go

Oooh, look, typical abusive rule-breaking reply from Don Brennan.

Thanks, that just won me a hundred pounds. Shame I had to bet ninety-nine to win that.

Id tell you to spend It wisely but I know thats beyond you.

I've asked you in the past to try and debate a point without resorting to abuse and insults, but I know that's beyond you.

Pot, meet kettle, preferably dressed in black.

If what you're trying to say is that I resort to insults and abuse, I suggest you read my posts, because you obviously haven't so far.

Right - if people cannot take it whilst they're dishing it out, then they shouldn't give it out.

Are we still on about Turry?

If Newton purchased those drugs as "performance enhancing" he should demand a refund.

Testing for growth hormone now, not easy to test for, shows the lengths that the RFL and the anti-doping agency are going to now to reduce the number of people who take it.

Are growth hormones legal in football? I know Barcelona have been very candid about all the $hit they have injected into Lionel Messi over the years, or is it something different that they inject into him?