22-4 not looking good. kick off not going 10

The dobbins have just had a try disallowed for forward pass.
The BBC Humberside commentator reckons it was only disallowed because the dobbins had such a big lead!!

it's going the way I thought it would.

No idea in attack as was the case was last week.

And as phil clarke used to say " saints best defence is there attack"

Thank goodness for Ganson says I.

Anyhow, you should be listening to Merseyside for an unbiased commentary

Can't say I am unsurprised by this result.

We have been ponderous and methodicval at best this season. More worryingly we seem to have morphed into a Lancashire version of Featherstone Rovers from yesteryear - happy to trundle the ball down the middle.

I said Potter's style of rugby was dour at Catalans and he is replicating the boredom at Knowsley Road. Rubbish.

Looks like another Sunday night of sack Potter topics on here tonight (again)

Except at Catalans he had great big French blokes who could play his sort of game with ease. We don't have, so instead of being dour and winning, we're just confused and losing.

It's shiit rugby either way, and not the red vee tradition... Really not happy with the tactics. Perhaps a controversial one here as well... Is enough coming from Pryce

You took the words from my keyboard - although I suspect it will be a week of them rather than just a night, followed by the remaining month and Shudds beat us again on Friday

They are being pretty fair overall; describing Saints as "lacking direction" and "clueless" and "out of sorts"

And to top it all, Merseyside commentary has just died and I have to listen to Hull!!

What is a "dobbin?"

Potter had a big tough pack at Catalan but he got only graham as his pack at saints.

We have a very very small pack which is smallest in super league but that's not Potters fault.

Teams can get away with being small but must have pace but we also lack pace.

I hope it is not a rhetorical question.

HKR = The Robins = Dobbins = Donkeys

although I think we are the donkeys today.

But we're the Robins, not Robbins

Has he balls - Puletua and Cunningham are hardly lightweights.

Any case the tactics are poor - we are so predictable it is like reading a Jeffrey Archer 'thriller.'

No, of course that is not Potter's fault.

What IS Potter's fault is imposing a style of play from one set of players on another totally different set of players, which is what has been said.

Nathan Brown has turned a bunch of largely average players into a winning team because he has spotted their potential and maximised it by their style of rugby. A style which [isuits the players[/i. Anderson did the same to us. That is good coaching.

Poetic license son, don't take it personally

if he wants us to play this brand of rugby, thats fine, but we'll need 2 big props for next year for it to be effective

would DA done any better with this current squad and injuries?

I doubt DA would do better to be honest.

We still good enough to win grand final this year if we get players back but I think we will really struggle next year.

Yes.

We have the same squad on the pitch, bar Talau, than we have had for the last three years or thereabouts.

We only have Long, Cunningham and Fas out injured (Cayless doesn't count IMO because he's hardly been playing for two seaons). Injuries are no excuse now.

The answer to that is a BIG FAT NO!!!!!

I'm not just talking about size but KC, tony p and graham are the only big players we got.

Only graham tho is tough hard runner like potter had at Catalan.

Our forward have no aggresion with the ball which is why our go forward is pretty poor. That's why teams kick deep. We struggle to get out our half

You could argue that so much of Saints' play over the years has come off the back of truly great work around the ruck from Cunningham and the creativity of Long (particularly his kicking game). Without props like Fas, there's too much pressure for Graham to make the yards and players like Clough to play prop when he's probably not quite big enough to make the desired impact. It's going to be detrimental no matter what the coach's game plan would be.