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| Has anyone actually thought this through ?
Who in the division, with the exception of Leeds, is going to compete with Saints ?
Nobody is the truth, we have basically lost a left centre and ideally a replacement will be signed but that is it. Saints will finish either top or second and barring some catastrophe will be at OT again next year.
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| Quote ="CHANNEL22" get to the final and anyone can win a "one off" game'"
Even Leeds!
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| Quote ="tad rhino"talking RL at work today we were talking about next season and none of us, all fans of differant clubs, could decide about saints.
are the key players getting to old?
puletua is a good signing but should more have been signed?
are you happy with the youngsters coming through?eastmond,obviously is class but are then many more?
this isn't a wind up i'm genuinely interested if you think you will be a major force next season or will it be a season of rebuilding with a new coach?
thanks, tad'"
We are desperatly lacking pace in the outside backs, Meli is a liability, Wellens form looks poor atm and we are heavily relying on Gidley,Cunningham and Long who are the wrong side of 30. If key players stay clear of injuries and some of the young guys continue to get game time and develop we will go well.
Most imortant issue is we need a Centre - Several young lads maybe options but are they ready? Wheeler, Foster, Tyrer all being touted as our centre option , can they make the step up?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"my opinion, if it counts, is you need to stay virtually injury free. 1-17 is still class although not as good as leeds, although i am biased obviously.'"
who's our new number 4 and is he class?
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Has anyone actually thought this through ?
Who in the division, with the exception of Leeds, is going to compete with Saints ?
Nobody is the truth, we have basically lost a left centre and ideally a replacement will be signed but that is it. Saints will finish either top or second and barring some catastrophe will be at OT again next year.'"
Wigan and Catalans can compete and maybe afew others, you cannot just look at recruitment, the players already at the club can improve, we have many players who still have not hit there full potential plus afew new signings and some youngsters coming through.
Fielden, Smith, Mathers, Goulding, Lulu, Tomkins S, Tomkins J, Hock, Lockers, Coley, O'Carroll, Prescott and Feka all still have massive room for improvement, where as the Saints and Leeds players do not have this same room for improvement as many of them are already class.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Wigan and Catalans can compete and maybe afew others, you cannot just look at recruitment, the players already at the club can improve, we have many players who still have not hit there full potential plus afew new signings and some youngsters coming through.
Fielden, Smith, Mathers, Goulding, Lulu, Tomkins S, Tomkins J, Hock, Lockers, Coley, O'Carroll, Prescott and Feka all still have massive room for improvement, where as the Saints and Leeds players do not have this same room for improvement as many of them are already class.'"
Wigan compete with Saints.
I understand Saints have lost a centre, Wigan have lost the only top player they had.
If Wigan finish above Saints next season, I will personally show my backside at Wigan townhall.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Wigan compete with Saints.
I understand Saints have lost a centre, Wigan have lost the only top player they had.
If Wigan finish above Saints next season, I will personally show my backside at Wigan townhall.'"
I never said we would finish above saints, there is no chance of that happening, I dont think we will beat saints either, but we will be right behind them, I can see us doing well in games in which we would usually slip up.
Carmont, Richards, Hock (when he behaves himself), Fielden (back end of season) and Feka are all top players who pretty much all teams would love to have, we have also gained a top player in Riddell
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| Quote ="tad rhino"i'm not trolling, not sure about jonesey though!
it's a genuine question. one lad is a hull fan, i'm leeds obviously and the other guy is a cas fan and we were talking next season.
i'm just not sure saints will be in the top 2 but i was just interested in what the saints fans thought as they know the team better than me.
like the last guy said it doesn't look the biggest squad and a few injuries could really harm saints'" Tad I think Saints have more than enough to be in the top 2.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"I never said we would finish above saints, there is no chance of that happening, I dont think we will beat saints either, but we will be right behind them, I can see us doing well in games in which we would usually slip up.
Carmont, Richards, Hock (when he behaves himself), Fielden (back end of season) and Feka are all top players who pretty much all teams would love to have, we have also gained a top player in Riddell'"
Carmont is decent, as is Richards.
Hock is a good player when he wants to be.
Fielden is garbage, Feka is decent for a few minutes.
Riddell is another overrated, overhyped and overpaid Australian, fancy finding one of them at Wigan, eh ?
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Carmont is decent, as is Richards.
Hock is a good player when he wants to be.
Fielden is garbage, Feka is decent for a few minutes.
Riddell is another overrated, overhyped and overpaid Australian, fancy finding one of them at Wigan, eh ?'"
Carmont and Richards would easily get in the saints team
Feka is miles better than Mary
Fielden has been better than Peacock second half of the season.
Riddell is not being paid a high wage.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Carmont and Richards would easily get in the saints team
Feka is miles better than Mary
Fielden has been better than Peacock second half of the season.
Riddell is not being paid a high wage.'"
This is what gets me with Wiganers.....all these top players apparently and theyre still crApp.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"This is what gets me with Wiganers.....all these top players apparently and theyre still crApp.'"
Thats cause we have some players who let the team down big time by underperforming.
We are so crap that the last 2 seasons we have finished just one place behind saints.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Thats cause we have some players who let the team down big time by underperforming.
We are so crap that the last 2 seasons we have finished just one place behind saints.
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I thought Leeds finished second...
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Thats cause we have some players who let the team down big time by underperforming.
We are so crap that the last 2 seasons we have finished just one place behind saints.
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To be honest I havent noticed where Wigan have finished for the past 3 years. Im aware they're in the league somewhere, not in competition with the big sides and thats about it. It will take a miracle for Wigan to compete with the likes of Saints and Leeds.
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| Quote ="Ski"I thought Leeds finished second...'"
Hmmm nope im afraid Leeds have come first last 2 seasons then Saints losing against them twice in the grand final and the last 2 years we have lost in the FE putting us 3rd and you 2nd
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"To be honest I havent noticed where Wigan have finished for the past 3 years. Im aware they're in the league somewhere, not in competition with the big sides and thats about it. It will take a miracle for Wigan to compete with the likes of Saints and Leeds.'"
If there is one club where miracles can happen its Wigan
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Hmmm nope im afraid Leeds have come first last 2 seasons then Saints losing against them twice in the grand final and the last 2 years we have lost in the FE putting us 3rd and you 2nd'"
Right, so are we talking about knock out competitions or league form?
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| Quote ="odemwingie"If there is one club where miracles can happen its Wigan'"
This is signature material.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"If there is one club where miracles can happen its Wigan'"
You mean like making £2m go into £1.65m?
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| Quote ="Ski"You mean like making £2m go into £1.65m?'"
Hahahahaha yes we are the only club in the history of the game to do this.
Saints are not doing this now and never will do.
You are wise
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This is signature material.'"
This is true. (edited for accuracy)
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| Quote ="odemwingie"
Fielden has been better than Peacock second half of the season.
'" No way Fielden did improve but he was wasn't playing above Peacocks level,if he was surely he'd have made the trip down under.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Hahahahaha yes we are the only club in the history of the game to do this.
Saints are not doing this now and never will do.
You are wise
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You're the one throwing wild and borderline slanderous accusations about Wigan's abilities about. Too many of you have been blinded by another run in a knock out competition to recognise it was yet another sub standard year for a sub standard cub.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"No way Fielden did improve but he was wasn't playing above Peacocks level,if he was surely he'd have made the trip down under.'"
But, he plays for Wigan, ergo etc etc
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| Quote ="Ski"You're the one throwing wild and borderline slanderous accusations about Wigan's abilities about. Too many of you have been blinded by another run in a knock out competition to recognise it was yet another sub standard year for a sub standard cub.'"
Yes a sub standard year i agree.
But Im afraid you are mistaken if you think the greatest RL club in the world is sub standard.
Wigan RL are more succesfull than any other team, have some of the most loyal fans in sport and have made RL what it is today.
You really are a retard if thats your genuine opinion. Your posts are always really pathetic.
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