With the state it is in, there will need to be a lot of cash thrown at it.

If you like it so much get your hand in your pocket, I see no reason why the council should use peoples hard earned for a building that is terribly dilapidated, been empty for many years, and will probably need to be demolished and rebuilt to "preserve it."

Knock it down and build a car park.

Cut the grass back, bit of tinsel and stick a baby jesus in there and you have a great grotto for the kids?

LMAO

I never mentioned the council spending a penny on it, although they have spent and wasted our money on a lot lesser deserving projects over the years. I said the town, which can mean a lot of things, which I personally would (put my hands in my pocket for), having said that if your location is correct, its got nothing to do with you anyway as you dont pay anything towards our rates.

If you could find enough money in the local area to fix this place up you are an economic genius / very deluded.

The Labour council is the reason the thing is still standing. It was they who got it listed. Therefore, it's up to them to do something about it, or not.

You (and some notable others) have got to stop these anti-labour rants on here. It's spoilt an otherwise great thread.

Also, the bottle shop was listed by the instigation of local industrial archeaology activists through English Heritage. So if you're going to spout party political crap then at least try and get your facts right. But to be honest I'd rather you didn't mention any political party again as it's very anoying when 1) you consistently get your facts wrong and 2) hijack the thread.

P.S. See what McManus had to say about working with Marie Rimmer and the help and co-operation they had FROM ALL POLITICAL PARTIES to get this stadium to fruition.

SO... enough now enough

So why did you raise it then? We live in a country which still holds on to the notion of free speech (give or take a libel case) and so I'm entitled to be as 'anti-Labour' as I choose. However, while I will need to look back in time, I do remember reading that it was the (Labour) Council who put forward the Cannington Shaw site for listing, whether or not the local archeological activists pushed for it. [url=http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about-listed-buildings/The Local Authority is the body responsible for listed buildings in their area anyway.[/url (See paragraph at bottom of page)

[url=http://llpgport.oltps.sthelens.gov.uk:8080/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=102877Of course said activists certainly tried to put the stadium project in jeopardy.[/url

I've never shared this thought on free speech. For instance, I still don't dare swear in front of my mum, I avoid telling a female work colleague she has a great rack for fear of a sexual harrasment case and almost never attempt to insight religious and racial hatred.

Well. I did say give or take a libel case, didn't I?

You certainly did.

Nice rack, by the way

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Be careful of that kind of comment on an internet forum where children are present. It could be seen as grooming.

Well, if I get in trouble for that, St Pete is ed.

LOL

Nah. But he could be fooked.



Or maybe not.

This is getting worse.

I think what we need on here is a good dose of CLADDING!!

For one this isn't 'this country', it's a discussion forum and you don't have the right of free speech on it. If you don't believe me then just ask the moderators.

But my point isn't ablout free speech, it's about spoiling a perfectly good thread with party political points.

Of course the local authority is responsible for listed buildings, that's the law. But it doesn't mean they were responsible for getting it listed in the first place.

Said activists are perfectly entitled to their opinion within the correct forum. The planning procedure was the correct forum for that. Anyway, you're twisting the truth again, they never tried to get the stadium stopped, they tried to get the industrial archeaology saved. Which is different.

All I'm asking is for you (and some notable others) to keep your party politics sniping away from here. I'm not a mod or a site owner, just someone who thinks you're spoiling a very pleasent read.

I'm perfectly free to say what I like so long as I don't contravene the OAP. Or is that AUP.


Then stop going on about it. Just ignore my posts.

Back on thread. Anyone think that the grey walls round the North Stand and other areas benefit from being painted in red and white with a well thought out design? Stark grey is a bit boring.

I think they should open the brick walled areas up to local graffitti artists to do add some Saints-inspired urban coolness to the arena.

Or just stick a Saints timeline thing up like Everton have going round Goodison Park with a timeline of great players, key signings, trophies etc.

That's a really good idea !!!!!!!!!!.

nothing deluded about wanting good things happening in St Helens, as I said if you dont live here and pay towards our rates, its got nothing to do with you.

you are right, there is nothing deluded about wanting good things to happen in St Helens, however you are deluded if you think someone is going to stump up the cash to rescue a crumbling building. Oh well in a few years it'll fall over and crush someone.