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| Quote ="29lithy"KC may well not be "everybody's" choice but , it will be him .'"
I really really hope not. I dont think he's up to it and it will destroy the legacy of what he did as a player if the fans start to turn on him
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| It would not destroy the legacy of him as a player.
Does Schofields coaching destroy his playing credentials, same goes for Murphy. The playing days and coaching days can be separated.
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| What do we really know about Cunningham's coaching ability at this point? I'm not sure he's done enough to get a head coaches job, the likes of Wane and Anderson have served long apprenticeships with their respective clubs before getting a big job and ideally KC would do the same.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"It would not destroy the legacy of him as a player.
Does Schofields coaching destroy his playing credentials, same goes for Murphy. The playing days and coaching days can be separated.'"
Of course they can. But theres a statue of him at the bloody stadium! KC has never had anything but adoration from the Saints fans and public. I dont know how he'd cope if that changed
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| Quote ="SFW"What do we really know about Cunningham's coaching ability at this point? I'm not sure he's done enough to get a head coaches job, the likes of Wane and Anderson have served long apprenticeships with their respective clubs before getting a big job and ideally KC would do the same.'"
This is the 4th year of his "apprenticeship." We'd hardly be throwing him straight from the pitch to the manager's office.
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| Being an assistant coach at an underachieving club (which saints have been since he's been involved) does not automatically qualify you for the head coaches position, whether you are supremely respected by the players/fans or not. As everyone knows, respect takes years to earn but that can be lost very quickly if he doesnt have the tactical and man management skills needed to manage a successful group of players.
At saints, it is clear he has a job for as long as he wants it, but I would like to see him serve his time under a couple of other experienced coaches (to learn different styles) and then maybe even go out on duel reg to coach a lower division club for a few seasons before being given the chance. We all saw what happened to Daryll Powell when he was given the Leeds job too early, he ended up leaving and spent years learning how to be a coach before then being given the opportunity again in SL. Hes now considered strongly to be coach of the year. Exactly the same happened with James Lowes when he was at Warrington. Sometimes, the legacy as a player and reputation as a person clouds the fact that you may not actually be the man for the job at that specific time.
Im sure KC will go on to be a successful coach, no doubt, but I just worry that being given the job too soon may do him more harm than good in the long term.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"This is the 4th year of his "apprenticeship." We'd hardly be throwing him straight from the pitch to the manager's office.'"
Wane actually coached the u19s tho. KC not coached at all.
I love KC but I don't want him as head coach and I 100% beleive Brown will recommend KC to McManus if he gets the wests job.
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| Quote ="St pete"Wane actually coached the u19s tho. KC not coached at all.
I love KC but I don't want him as head coach and I 100% beleive Brown will recommend KC to McManus if he gets the wests job.'"
I'm not saying I necessarily agree Cunningham should be our next coach, irregardless of how likely it seems he will be.
I was just saying that he has served time under 2 or 3 different coaches since he finished playing.
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| Quote ="St pete"Wane actually coached the u19s tho. KC not coached at all.
I love KC but I don't want him as head coach and I 100% beleive Brown will recommend KC to McManus if he gets the wests job.'"
Wane spent a lot of time coaching the lower teams. He wasn't a club legend like Cunningham, he was just another former player who'd taken up coaching. He did plenty of time in junior roles before getting the assistant manager's job.
Cunningham's progress has been, imo, falsely accelerated. He was in a minor role (strength and conditioning?), but when Royce got sacked, the resulting clearout meant KC was sitting next to Mike Rush as assistant. A role he managed to keep. I don't personally think KC has a strong enough coaching CV to be given the Saints job.
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| What's Brown got that Griffin hasn't?
From what I've heard, Griffin got fairly shafted to make room for Bennett's return. I think he's got to be the favourite.
Brown's won us the minor premiership, but a proper look into his tenure here would leave you slightly underwhelmed.
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| He has coaching credentials beyond Saints.
It depends what job they are wanting the coach to do. In terms of recruitement and developing youth, Brown has a pretty decent record. The way he developed the outside backs at huddersfield could be something that makes him an attractive prospect.
In the end with any job interview, it can be horses for corses or just a random choice as in the end appointing a coach alone will not change the fortunes of a club, other clubs will also be changing coaches and players. Making it a much more complex mix that makes a winning team.
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| Seeing as he did the same at Huddersfield does he really have any interest in coaching in this country?
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| Quote ="roader"Seeing as he did the same at Huddersfield does he really have any interest in coaching in this country?'"
He's been doing it for about five years, so I'd say so. You can't blame the guy for keeping an eye out for an opportunity in the NRL. It's the best league in the world and it's where he comes from - if he gets poached then good luck to him.
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| Quote ="Dux"He's been doing it for about five years, so I'd say so. You can't blame the guy for keeping an eye out for an opportunity in the NRL. It's the best league in the world and it's where he comes from - if he gets poached then good luck to him.'"
Agreed.
Not sure I'd like the wests job tho.
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| Jason Taylor getting the job according to a couple of people on Twitter.
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| Quote ="SFW"Jason Taylor getting the job according to a couple of people on Twitter.'"
I like Jason Taylor
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| Happy about that. I'd like him to at least see out his contract I think...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Happy about that. I'd like him to at least see out his contract I think...'"
Me too. H's only got me half convinced, but I don' think we'd find a better replacement in short notice.
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| I'm glad he's staying as I think he's put us back on track with some very good signings in walmsley, Walsh, Burns, Vea, Mose, Amor and Turner.
He's also made the call to play lomax at fullback which IMO was a great move and he will link up Walsh and burns very well and I'm pretty sure we will be a big threat with the ball.
With a little luck on the injuries front next year I think we will have a strong young team
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| He's started something at saints so it would be nice o see the end product. We should be strong next season if our forward go well.
I keep going hot and cold with brown. Some performances are so frustrating, but I can't argue with his judgement so fsr
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| As I said a few weeks ago !!!!!!!!!!!!!. Quote ="29lithy"It will be Keiron Cunningham .'"
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| Quote ="29lithy"As I said a few weeks ago !!!!!!!!!!!!!.'"
what has he done as a coach to deserve the Saints job
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| I am not saying he deserves the coaches job , just saying he will be the next saint's coach . Quote ="Saint Simon"what has he done as a coach to deserve the Saints job'"
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