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| Quote ="St pete"His eye socket injury has got infected and causing swelling around the eye. I was talking to him last week and he looked like the elephant man.'"
His eye infection does look awful. I would imagine he'll be rested for the Wakey game to give time for it to heal. It will never heal on a rugby pitch, that's for sure!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"His eye infection does look awful. I would imagine he'll be rested for the Wakey game to give time for it to heal. It will never heal on a rugby pitch, that's for sure!'"
That's what Royce told him, if he plays against hull and his eye is not better then he'll be left out of the wildcats game but knowing robes he'll insist on playing.
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| Quote ="St pete"That's what Royce told him, if he plays against hull and his eye is not better then he'll be left out of the wildcats game but knowing robes he'll insist on playing.'"
Robes doesn't get the final word on that though so if Royce puts his foot down then Robes will just have to take a seat in the stands! I hope he puts his foot down. We want Robes fully fit for the business end of the season and infections need time away from grotty places like rugby pitches. Besides, we don't want to be a one man team. Surely we have the staff to win a match without Robes on the field? We do on paper anyway.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Robes doesn't get the final word on that though so if Royce puts his foot down then Robes will just have to take a seat in the stands! I hope he puts his foot down. We want Robes fully fit for the business end of the season and infections need time away from grotty places like rugby pitches. Besides, we don't want to be a one man team. Surely we have the staff to win a match without Robes on the field? We do on paper anyway.'"
Royce wanted him to sit out the hull game but robes insisted on playing.
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| Quote ="St pete"Royce wanted him to sit out the hull game but robes insisted on playing.'"
It doesn't matter. The coach is the man to make the decision. Robes can insist all he wants! Honest. The final word as to who plays is down to the coach.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"It doesn't matter. The coach is the man to make the decision. Robes can insist all he wants! Honest. The final word as to who plays is down to the coach.'"
Like Friday against hull?
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| Quote ="St pete"Like Friday against hull?'"
Yep. Royce allowed it. He made the final decision, not Roby.
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| Who plays hooker when he is out. Cause an infection can take ages and be very annoying
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Who plays hooker when he is out. Cause an infection can take ages and be very annoying'"
Theoretically, Scott Moore. In reality? We haven't had to think about it this season so far, although Moore took over for the last 10 minutes of the game on Friday when Royce took Roby off.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yep. Royce allowed it. He made the final decision, not Roby.'"
Royce- " robes I'm not picking you this week because that eye is pretty bad"
Roby - " I'm ok to play boss, it looks worse than it is, I really want to play"
Royce - " ok robes you can play"
Yep, your right, Royce put his foot down and roby listened.
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| Quote ="St pete"Yep, your right, Royce put his foot down and roby listened.'"
Stop behaving like an idiot.
Last comment on this from me. It is a fact that the coach is in charge of the playing roster. End of.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Stop behaving like an idiot.
Last comment on this from me. It is a fact that the coach is in charge of the playing roster. End of.'"
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| Quote ="St pete"eusa_wall.gif'"
Are you arguing semantics today????
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| Quote ="jdrocket"I unfortunately couldn't get to the Hull game. However, I gave a balanced view of him in the many performances I have seen. I would like him at Warrington but he hasn't been amazing from what I have seen. If we had signed him I would have been optimistic, though.
I would be interested in what order you *edit* ranked your forwards. And even more so where you ranked him out of the forwards in super league.
However, my point was not about the quality of TP; we can argue about that all day. My question pertained to why TP wouldn't sign at Wire and instead stayed at Sts.'"
Waterhouse agreed terms with Saints but nothing was signed. TP signed his contract taking up the last non-fed spot and the Waterhouse deal fell through. That's all you need to know.
Oh and by the way, TP is better than Waterhouse. Have you seen much of Waterhouse play? He's a good player, I would say better than Laffrinchi but he isn't as good as TP.
I actually had the pleasure of talking to TP about the whole Wire v Saints thing during the time and he said that he wouldn't sign for any other SL team than Saints but was seeing what was on the table with regards to NRL. Warrington offered him a good contract.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Waterhouse agreed terms with Saints but nothing was signed. TP signed his contract taking up the last non-fed spot and the Waterhouse deal fell through. That's all you need to know.
Oh and by the way, TP is better than Waterhouse. Have you seen much of Waterhouse play? He's a good player, I would say better than Laffrinchi but he isn't as good as TP.
I actually had the pleasure of talking to TP about the whole Wire v Saints thing during the time and he said that he wouldn't sign for any other SL team than Saints but was seeing what was on the table with regards to NRL. Warrington offered him a good contract.'"
Waterhouse is a very good player and Warrington have pulled off a good signing.
He's a different type of player than TP.
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| Quote ="St pete"Waterhouse is a very good player and Warrington have pulled off a good signing.
He's a different type of player than TP.'"
Without a doubt, I do rate him indeed, I wish we had the space for him. However, I don't think he'll offer as much as TP offers to us in terms of attacking threat. TP is also very keen on the hard work in defence.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Without a doubt, I do rate him indeed, I wish we had the space for him. However, I don't think he'll offer as much as TP offers to us in terms of attacking threat. TP is also very keen on the hard work in defence.'"
Waterhouse plays a completely different role than TP. Waterhouse is a good hard working backrow who won't take a back step. He plays wide and gets thru a mountain of work.
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| Quote ="St pete"Waterhouse plays a completely different role than TP. Waterhouse is a good hard working backrow who won't take a back step. He plays wide and gets thru a mountain of work.'"
I know, I've seen him play. I do rate him.
I wasn't comparing what roles they play, I was comparing what their overall game offers to the team.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I know, I've seen him play. I do rate him.
I wasn't comparing what roles they play, I was comparing what their overall game offers to the team.'"
I'd take waterhouse over any of our backrows with any hesitation.
He'll be great player for Warrington. Only concern is his age but I don't think it will be a problem as he's a very fit player.
I'm looking forward to seeing him in super league, it's a shame it's for them.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'd take waterhouse over any of our backrows with any hesitation.
He'll be great player for Warrington. Only concern is his age but I don't think it will be a problem as he's a very fit player.
I'm looking forward to seeing him in super league, it's a shame it's for them.'"
I would certainly take him over our back rowers if we class TP as a prop, without a doubt.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I would certainly take him over our back rowers if we class TP as a prop, without a doubt.'"
I'm pretty sure he's been a one club player in the NRL so maybe he'll struggle to settle.
Can't see it like but let's hope
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| I have seen a lot more of TP than Waterhouse; I will put it that way. However, I am very optimistic. He will really suit the game played at WArrington and I think he will certainly offer a lot more for WArrington than TP. As I have said, I have always had reservations about TP's work in his own half.
I think this issue may have the potential to turn into a Roby/Monaghan debate and, just like that debate, I think the answer will be horses for courses.
I am staggered as to how you have discovered such a unique and exclusive insight into TP's actions in the transfer areas. However, I don't doubt a word you have said.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"
I am staggered as to how you have discovered such a unique and exclusive insight into TP's actions in the transfer areas. However, I don't doubt a word you have said.'"
Oh it wasn't by any insider track or 'reliable sources'.
He came into were I worked and was talking to a mutual friend of mine and his. Luckily I was with him at the time and I asked him, simple as that really.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Oh it wasn't by any insider track or 'reliable sources'.
He came into were I worked and was talking to a mutual friend of mine and his. Luckily I was with him at the time and I asked him, simple as that really.
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Well that would appear to be a conclusive answer.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Well that would appear to be a conclusive answer.
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It certainly turned out that way.
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