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| Quote ="Saddened!"That's not what they said on the website. They said the North will be cladded. Has that now changed?
Either way, think of it as a big window that someone left open. Should be nice and airy.'"
from what was said two week back the north stand will be cladded, not the outside wall where they are now fitting the red stuff, but the inner wall behind the seated terracing, would be great if it was the outside wall.
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| The club had to re-apply for planning permission to clad the North Stand because there had to be a 1m gap between the roof and the cladding to allow for wind to filter through otherwise the wind could threaten the stability of the structure. The club hope the North Stand will be cladded prior to the start of the new season and they think it should be.
However, there are no plans to clad the West and East Stands at present and apparently there never have been plans to do so. But the wall at the back of those stands is going to be high enough that someone standing at 6ft 5ins wouldn't be able to see into town. Or something like that!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"The club had to re-apply for planning permission to clad the North Stand because there had to be a 1m gap between the roof and the cladding to allow for wind to filter through otherwise the wind could threaten the stability of the structure. The club hope the North Stand will be cladded prior to the start of the new season and they think it should be.
However, there are no plans to clad the West and East Stands at present and apparently there never have been plans to do so. But the wall at the back of those stands is going to be high enough that someone standing at 6ft 5ins wouldn't be able to see into town. Or something like that!'"
Its the 6ft 5ins wall that will be made higher on the North stand.
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| First of all some pics i took last thursday in the fading sun
I like the look of the landscaping. However do wonder if in time (think decades) those trees will obscure the stadium. Note also the framework going on the Turnstile entrance in the south west corner, in readiness for the red cladding
Now onto the pics i took on Saturday
The concrete pavement is being laid around the south eastern corner of the stadium
As Gruntfuttock has already pointed outs, floodlights have now been fitted on the north stand. Cant be long now before we get a floodlight test
With regard to the seating. They have now fitted the seats in the South West corner near the Police control room/pa box. Looks like they have fitted the cheap seats first and are leaving the fitting of the posh premium seats till last.
There is now a huge wall of red behind the North stand. Cant help but think this would have been better if it was white with a big read V.
i also noticed that they have built a small wall between the toilets and the turnstiles. Presumably this is to prevent people queuing for the toilet from blocking the entrance to the stadium.
Also note that despite the road outside the stadium being soaking wet from heavy rain, the inside of the stadium is completely dry, despite it not being fully enclosed.
A nearly completed stadium with little over one month to go before it gets handed over to Saints, looking glorious in the sunshine
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| Fandabydosy. I don't care about the lack of cladding. It still looks awesome.
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| thanks Chair - was beginning to think you'd taken the week off along with the official Saints photographer who hasn't posted any pics for a while.
Great shots.
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| A small observation over the cladding...
The south west corner has 10 grey clad sections, but the south east section only has 6 grey clad sections. I wonder if the south east has 4 more sections yet to clad? Or maybe the south red faced part is offset towards the east?
Anyone have access to the plans to show if this offset is correct?
Not a point of earth shattering importance I know but people have posted questions on more minor points than this.
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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"A small observation over the cladding...
The south west corner has 10 grey clad sections, but the south east section only has 6 grey clad sections. I wonder if the south east has 4 more sections yet to clad? Or maybe the south red faced part is offset towards the east?
Anyone have access to the plans to show if this offset is correct?
Not a point of earth shattering importance I know but people have posted questions on more minor points than this.'"
The PA box/ Police control room is in the south west corner which therefore requires to be clad, as do the lift shafts to the high level disabled section of the west stand. No such box exists in the south eastern part of the stadium, nor are there high level disabled facilities in the eastern part of the stadium.
There is also the quite interesting fact that every different stand within the stadium is a different size, and of slightly different design. This is a change from the usual flatpack cookie cutter stadiums we see built in the uk.
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| I do like the way we can call the home and away ends the Western Terrace and the Eastern Terraceicon_wink.gif
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| Have you seen the pics on redvee behind the stands? Bone dry, cladding is not required IMO.
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| North west corner looks like the worst spot to be.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Have you seen the pics on redvee behind the stands? Bone dry, cladding is not required IMO.'"
hate to keep on about this, the stadium is fantastic, but there is very little cover in the Northeast and the Northwest corners of the ground, also check out the pics on redvee and see how far the rain has come up the front of the terrace, this of course cannot be helped but it will also come in from behind the above mentioned corners with the aid of the wind.
Go and have a look at how open these corners are it will effect seated and standing fans, granted not a lot of fans will be effected but some will.
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| Quote ="roader"North west corner looks like the worst spot to be.'"
these are our own seated fans, not bothered about the Northeast corner, they are for away fans.
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| Quote ="The Doghead"hate to keep on about this, the stadium is fantastic, but there is very little cover in the Northeast and the Northwest corners of the ground, also check out the pics on redvee and see how far the rain has come up the front of the terrace, this of course cannot be helped but it will also come in from behind the above mentioned corners with the aid of the wind.
Go and have a look at how open these corners are it will effect seated and standing fans, granted not a lot of fans will be effected but some will.'"
They do look a little exposed, however perhaps not as bad as people think.
Look closely and you will see that the ends of the stands are walkways, so no speccies will be sat right on the end of the stand, they will actually be a few metres in. This will mean they have a couple of extra metres of roof cover, in addition to the curved roof in the corner. This will make it harder for the rain to get to them.
I do however think that seats in the far corners will be a bit like those on the front couple of rows, in that if the wind and rain are blowing the wrong way you can expect some rain getting to you, but i doubt if people will get a soaking.
The open corners are my only real bugbear with the new stadium. I would have liked them to be at least partially cladded, upto say the height of the North stand seated area. This would leave an open bit at the top but would make the stadium look and feel more enclosed.
I regard the open backs of the stands to be an opportunity. In summer months on a nice warm evening, the natural light will potentially make for a more pleasant drinking experience, than being stuck in an airless claustrophobic concrete cavern, with nothing but flickering neon lights to keep away the dark. Its only really in February, March and early April that the open backs will make for potentially a bracing experience. The vast majority of the season will be played in mild to warm, though often wet conditions.
Furthermore re the open backs, one of the things i have not liked about Widnes is that the North stand bar areas can be a bit of a sweat box in summer due to their fully enclosed nature.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1254
the saints official photographer has been about again.
Airel shop looks awesome!'"
It does indeedy.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1254
the saints official photographer has been about again.
Airel shop looks awesome!'"
Yep, looks brilliant from above as it looks pretty much complete from that angle.
I was critical earlier in the thread about the block of white seats with the redvee, but I must put that down to the poor quality of the image, as it actually looks very nice.
The pics of the concourses in the North Stand are very interesting, and actually would be a very nice design if left open like that (still can't actually make out if this will be the case or not due to all the various views on it here!). The main concern is the weather, but on a summer's day, it would be very nice with the fresh air coming in. I assume the ends at least will definitely be left open like that?
As for the views from the inside, I actually think the open backs look impressive, and I thinkj it would look better if the North is kept open, as it adds a level of balance to the ground. Not talking about the comfort and protection from the elements, simply the look of the place.
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| Re the open back of the stadium
I was watching a documentary a while ago on why they keep having to relay the Wembley pitch all the time (and quite often at the DW) the concencus with the experts was a lack of air flow in such an enclosed stadium. I believe it was Barcelona's stadium, or some other monster spanish one that the pitch in fact is mechanically lowered and roled out of the stadium after games to allow the pitch to "breath"
So the partially open backs are probably designed by much cleverer people than ourselves to ensure that the home of the saints continues to have the best pitch in the land
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| But if we were cutting edge we'd have an ipitch like Widnes do.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"But if we were cutting edge we'd have an ipitch like Widnes do.'"
Jesus, man. Do you not know anything? Saints are waiting for the iPitch 4 to come out. Colour-changing grass. Widnes will most likely have to keep rebooting theirs.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Re the open back of the stadium
I was watching a documentary a while ago on why they keep having to relay the Wembley pitch all the time (and quite often at the DW) the concencus with the experts was a lack of air flow in such an enclosed stadium. I believe it was Barcelona's stadium, or some other monster spanish one that the pitch in fact is mechanically lowered and roled out of the stadium after games to allow the pitch to "breath"
So the partially open backs are probably designed by much cleverer people than ourselves to ensure that the home of the saints continues to have the best pitch in the land'"
I know that this is a problem at all the big stadiums like Wembley, Old Trafford etc. but at our place how can that be the issue when we have four huge corners letting air in?
I think other problems have caused issues with our pitch in the past. It seems to be sorted now though, the pitch has been quality this year even at the start of the season.
Leeds pitch seems to be the worst around at the start of every season.
Just a question to those of you who used to stand on the popular side.... are you happy being moved to behind the goals or would you rather have down the side? Will it kill the atmosphere? I see similar problems at Salford with them moving the shed.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"The PA box/ Police control room is in the south west corner which therefore requires to be clad, as do the lift shafts to the high level disabled section of the west stand. No such box exists in the south eastern part of the stadium, nor are there high level disabled facilities in the eastern part of the stadium.
There is also the quite interesting fact that every different stand within the stadium is a different size, and of slightly different design. This is a change from the usual flatpack cookie cutter stadiums we see built in the uk.'"
I think this picture illustrates your point, you can see clearly the differences in the SE and SW corners and hence the differences in cladding
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| There's a small bit about the new bridge in the public notices section of the St Helens reporter today saying work expected to last 3 months.
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| Is the away end standing and how many will it fit?
Looks great on the pictures
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