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| Quote ="Odemwingie"=#FF0000Saddened! wrote:Sounds horrific. If they've run out of money to clad the outside (Not a massive expense) then how are they going to finish the internals? Or are they not going to bother with that as well? And what about the seats? Are we actually going to have seats?
I think you are just putting on a brave face. Lets be honest it will look unfinished. It will just be a few supporting peices of metal with a brick wall. Hardly the 'smaller version of wembley' some of your fans dreamed of.
It will look pretty poor. Good stadium though.'"
My concern above was because the poster that mentioned it's not being cladded said it was due to financial constraints. I'd not convinced they'll leave it as it is now as it looks very 'doable' to me. But you have to remember it's still a building site. Once they add paint, logos, sponsors, advertising, flags etc it will look very different to what it does now. And what does the appearance of the outside matter? It's the viewing angle, the atmosphere and the facilities that make a stadium. Those are on course to be fantastic.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Don't switch the debate around. You know I'm right, it looks terrible appart from the main stand.
We play in one of the top two facilities in the league. Not looking to move out. We pay A LOT less to play in that stadium than your running costs will be and we play in the better facility. I know we don't own it, but we pay peanuts for a class facility and it won't be a problem when the tics get relegated, the stadium issue will no longer exist.
You know it looks terrible, but you want to make something good of it. I would be the same. You know that it is not what quite you wanted and you are disapointed, not exactly the end of the world though.'"
I would rather pay a bit more and play in our OWN new stadium than pay DW to rent the stadium and get told by footballers when you can and cant play at home...at least when ours is built we wont have to give up home advantage of playoff games and take them to a neutral venue because the wendyball is more important!!
Who would have ever thought it?? The mighty Wigan RL...Wigan Athletic's bi@tch!!
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Don't switch the debate around. You know I'm right, it looks terrible appart from the main stand.
We play in one of the top two facilities in the league. .'"
have you been to the ground, had a good look at all four stands, the stadium is fantastic, with or without cladding.
True the piedome is a great stadium, when they let you use it.
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Interesting to note that Saints Official FB account has posted that the stadium will be fully enclosed (less the top "air" gap) sooner rather than later indicating it might even be ready for the start of the season!
www.facebook.com/OfficialSt.HelensRLFC See response to David Garner today.
I'd hope from the wording they will get any required finance in place and expect the work on it in late Jan/Feb
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Interesting to note that Saints Official FB account has posted that the stadium will be fully enclosed (less the top "air" gap) sooner rather than later indicating it might even be ready for the start of the season!
www.facebook.com/OfficialSt.HelensRLFC See response to David Garner today.
I'd hope from the wording they will get any required finance in place and expect the work on it in late Jan/Feb
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| Quote ="Chris Saint"Interesting to note that Saints Official FB account has posted that the stadium will be fully enclosed (less the top "air" gap) sooner rather than later indicating it might even be ready for the start of the season! '"
This is the response you refer to (for those not on Facebook):
[iYes, but it might not be ready for the beginning of the season as timings are tight[/i
Nowhere does he mention the 'top air gap' as you call it. Just like there is no mention of the application for planning permission being sought for the North Stand. It was a very good answer but not the same as the one I was given.
I'm sure applications for planning permission can be found on the St Helens Council website?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"This is the response you refer to (for those not on Facebook):
[iYes, but it might not be ready for the beginning of the season as timings are tight[/i
Nowhere does he mention the 'top air gap' as you call it. Just like there is no mention of the application for planning permission being sought for the North Stand. It was a very good answer but not the same as the one I was given.
I'm sure applications for planning permission can be found on the St Helens Council website?'"
I only mention the gap as i believed it mandatory from other information passed out previously regarding stability issues. Be interesting if this is actually the case.
As for conflicting answers its probably down to how well informed people are, in the sense some people will have to fill in some gaps, it being an official club release I'd hope its accurate and not the diplomatic stance. Its lots of speculation and until we get finished pictures or see it ourselves we aren't going to know.
Planning amendments there are several if you search planning at peasley cross lane, a lot of them point to none material changes nonetheless nothing specifically appears to be relevant to any stands/cladding mostly parking and access.
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| posted on redvee this morning
looking classy
and how good does that turf look? wonderful
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| Looks fantastic!!! Think I can see my seat.
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| I think i'm gonna cry And to all pie eaters
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| It looks the nuts
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| Quote ="roader"Your gold coloured seat will look odd among all that red.
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Indeed. They'll have to put some small people next to me as my armrests will be digging into them if they don't.
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| Odemwingie's trolling aside, this is going to be one of, if not THE, best RL ground in the country. Not as big as KC or DW but purpose built and very classy. I am, as a Wigan fan, slightly jealous of this new stadium.
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| Quote ="Chris Saint"www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1177'"
In that answer, it is the North Stand specifically referred to, which is exactly what I was told. The North Stand will be cladded and should be cladded in time but the club had to re-apply for planning permission to facilitate that due to the requirement for a 1m gap between the cladding and roof. The North Stand was nothing to do with cash. That was the East and West stands, according to the members of staff I spoke to.
I think someone somewhere is losing his rag! Saints probably need to put out a formal statement about the finish of the stadium just to clear everything up.
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| Quote ="Chris Saint"www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1177'"
I see there is official confirmation of my request for a gold seat. The quote is a tad above what I was anticipating, but I'm sure I'll find it somewhere. Do a bit of ebay selling perhaps.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see there is official confirmation of my request for a gold seat. The quote is a tad above what I was anticipating, but I'm sure I'll find it somewhere. Do a bit of ebay selling perhaps.'"
I think you should write a book, "Saddened's Magnum Opus": Whatever happened to the arm-rests?: The downs and downs (and downs) of being a Saints fan
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see there is official confirmation of my request for a gold seat. The quote is a tad above what I was anticipating, '"
Why? Were you only expecting silver?
Bonus!
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| As someone has posted on Redvee no more allocated North stand tickets being advertised.
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| Quote ="roader"As someone has posted on Redvee no more allocated North stand tickets.'"
Excellent!
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| Quote ="billytuppy"Looks fantastic!!! Think I can see my seat.
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I can see mine. ( Hope they cover mine up I don't want to sit on a dirty seat. lol
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| This weeks piccies.
A footpath that can also serve as an emergency vehicle access has been created from the mini roundabout on the Tesco's side of the site. They have also built up what look like dry stone walls, but are probably gabions to separate the Tesco side from the RL side. These walled areas may become popular on sunny days with scallies sitting on them while supping 2 litre bottles of white lightening.
From the Peasley cross side they have been digging up the entrance road ready for relaying the surface
looks like they have come across something they probably didnt expect to find. Are these rails from an ancient railway line to a long forgotten foundry?
Along the front of Peasley cross lane they have started fitting the vehicle crash barriers.
Looking into the stadium and the glass has gone into the PA and police control box
some of the drain pipes have still not been connected up from the roof
Outer cladding is also be put on the sides of the south stand that link to both the East and West terraces
You can see on this shot all the completed blockwork for the North stand
looking at the corner of the North and West stand we can see the completed blockwork, but perhaps more importantly see that floodlights have been fitted above the South stand.
Note also what look like air vents, have been cut from the cladding above the executive box patios
Thes floodlights look large and powerful. I like how they dont all point downwards, the ones that dont, are probably to prevent high towering kicks getting lost in darkness, as is the case in the gloomy underpowered lighting at Widnes.
The builders were also working on the East stand turnstyle block
Finally i managed to get these pics of the seating going into the North stand. Looks nearly complete
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