Still fooked in the halves no matter what team is picked because he had this crazy idea of signing a fullback as a halfback.

My pack

LMS
Roby
Perry
Sia
Wilkin
Laffranchci

Subs- clough, TP, flanaghan, Dixon

What I'd go with for the next few games (injuries permitting):

1) Wellens
2) Gardner
3) Shenton
4) Wheeler
5) Makinson
6) Gaskell
7) Hohaia

Wellens is rediscovering his form. If he's caught out again for pace/form in the next few weeks, time for the legend to take a step back, but let's see how he goes. Foster needs to rebuild his confidence in the u20's, because he'd be relentlessly targetted by Leeds/Wire/scum. Lance brings experience to the halves - he should be given the remit to organise the attack & call the plays. Gaskell would provide the best balance at half.

8 ) Perry
9 ) Roby
10) LMS
11) Soliola
12) Lafanchi
13) Wilkin

IMO, gotta load the pack with bulk first up. There's 4 players who could prop there. Wilkin's obviously the anomaly, but I don't subscribe to No13 being a 3rd prop. We need Wilkin to be given some more ball-playing responsibility. If Soliola's not fit, then TP to start.

14) Puletua
15) Clough
16) Dixon
17) Lomax

Get Perry to play the battering ram for 10-15 mins, then sub him for TP. Clough on for LMS soon after for the steady-eddie prop position. Dixon to spell with Frank & Sia. Lomax to spell with Roby, as well as cover pretty much all the back positions.

Seems much better balanced to me.

I think. It all depends who is picking the team if it's Cunningham I can see a couple of changes if it is mike rush I dont think he as got it in him to dropped any of the senior members of the squad

I know what your saying, pretty shocked rush was given the job to be honest.

A bit left field also, but if everyone's fit:

1. Lomax

2. Gardner
3. Shenton
4. Meli
5. Makinson

6. Wheeler
7. Gaskell

8. Perry
9. Roby
10. LMS
11. Soliola
12. LaFrank
13. Wilkin

14. Clough
15. TP
16. Flanagan
17. Hohaia

We need to give Wheeler a run at #6 to see what he can do there (he's wasted at centre), put Lomax at #1 where his skills are best suited and give Gaskell a go at #7 for want of anyone else with a kicking game. Hohaia as impact runner from the bench at #9 (for rather more than 5 minutes a game) and cover at #1 and HB. I wouldn't want to risk having Foster anywhere near my team right now frankly.

I would I give Cunningham the job on is own the players have a lost more respect for him then they have for rush

I agree with kieron should he no.1 but does he have the correct badges to be it? Surely rush will have. I hope rush put his trust in the young lads and gets them in rather than letting the likes of perry continue with his holiday here! Young Forster and hale deserving a chance IMO, playing very well at championship level and josh jones in the 20s. Too many senior players taking it all to easy for my liking! Youth now will make us world beaters in 18-24 months!

You must be mad having no Wellens, because against Bradford he was by far your best player and the only one who seemed to give a damn. I do agree with you regards Hohaia.
I hope you do improve as a team because IMO the competition as whole needs a strong St Helens.

Really????


Rush coached most of them.



Cunningham has been an assistant conditioner, I would take it as more of a team effort, rather than one being number one, the other being number 2. Also Cunningham may not want it yet.

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come on Pete, you need to pick the halves not just the pack.

I ain't got a clue what I'd pick as no combinations have worked this year at all. I don't think lance or lomax are #7 but who else is there?

I'd have to go with Gaskell at stand off as he's the most natural halfback at the club and the only one with a long kicking game (poor this year).

This would have all been avoided if we'd just signed a #7 on.

I would say Gaskell is a more natural 7 than a 6, would give Wheeler the no 6 shirt, Lomax on the bench coming on in the 2nd half against a tiring defence.

Rush was Andersons assistant, do it may be interesting to see of he coaches in an Anderspn style.

As far as players go, there will be one at least who benefits from this, there always is as a result of a coaching overhaul. Which player is going up grab the opportunity that is available?

Well it's a long time to our next game so it gives us some time for prep and boy we need it as after Sunday it's a quick turn around for Warrington.

What are you expecting on Sunday?

Saints 2006 revisited?

I'd settle for Saints 1995 reloaded.

You aint going to get either.

How can you say that so catergorically?

Too much inexperience in the wrong places.

joey hayes bring your boots, your on son

Watch out he be on to you, joey is on here

Prescott - 21
Hayes - 19
Andy Northey - 23
Louchlin - 29
Sullivan - 26
Gibbs - 24
Goulding - 23
Fogerty - 26
Cunningham - 18
Apollo - 26
Matautia - 25
Nickle - 26
Joynt - 23
Haigh - 19
Veivers - 31
Dwyer - 28
Pickavance - 26


Not exactly a team full of stars, infact our future golden generation where still relatively youthful.

I reckon our team could equal the heights of 1995

I don't really understand the obsession with moving Lomax to full back. Wellens is a very good full back, and isn't looking any slower than he has for most of his career. Lack of pace at full back is a weakness, but every team has weaknesses. In an inexperienced side, you don't start moving your most experienced player out of position, to then move a young player like Lomax into a position that isn't his preferred.

If we do in the future move Wellens for a more pacy player than its likely to be Lance, who is the next most experienced at full back.

Lomax did a very good job at scrum half last year. We need the kicking and organisation part of the game sorted out very quickly, this is something I think can be done with the same set of players but just sharing out the responsibilities differently and changing the tactics.

not been able to slag Kyle 'what more money' eastmond off for a while but he went sooner i.e. before matty smith signed of salford then ..... i said to my dad that he will win a grand final for someone, great player and for me the best player we have ever let go!
for me

FB wellens (esp with these 3 next games)

W foster
C Shenton - someone to tell tony and guy where to stand

C Wheeler
W Makinson - speed on this could be good

SO Gaskell
HB Lomax - no better pairing in the club

P LMS
H Roby
P TP - 2 props to lay the platform

SR La frank
SR Dixon - with wheels and tommy

LF wilkin - time to stand up and really help the halfs

SUB lance - act like moore last year (not crap) add a bit of zip around the ruck
SUB perry
SUB sia
SUB clough - size on the bench to give the half some feild position to do something