If you don't behave John you will have Rogues on your back.

Rogues and me are best Buddies, its his family I feel sorry for

The away end for Saints is the West Stand. The East Stand is for us plebs who will be standing in our new stadium. I know this because I have East Stand on my season ticket.

Therefore, most Saints fans won't be able to see the big screen. Just one half of the North Stand (if they are low enough to peep round), the away end (West Stand) and the South Stand. That's poor.

Heard a rumour that we are planning to move the screen soon - best place would be in the south west corner.

I hope that is the case.

On the whole, i was happy today, a good run out for the lads and they are all a lot fitter, wilkin and wheeler especially look better. We strolled to put 40 on them by half time, then swapped 4 forwards and not surprisingly lost some momentum.
I was impressed by Shenton and LMS, both seem to have slotted into the team very well in a short period.
We'll have a better look how their doing against Hudds, hopefully again with two fairly full strength squads

saints under 20's suffered a loss today.

YORK City Knights were 34-30 victors against a St Helens Under-20s side in a pre-season friendly at Huntington Stadium.

The Knights try scorers were Tom Bush, Jonny Presley, new skipper Alex Benson, Duane Straugheir (2) and Jack Lee.

Chris Thorman kicked four goals and Lee Waterman one.

The big screen was there when we were in SL with no major issues, however the East Stand wasn't finished then. North stand was ok.

If you're worried about seeing the big screen, stay at home and watch it on TV! Wire fans don't whinge and most of their standing fans can't see the screen.

Regarding the game, I thought Graham was outstanding again and will be a big loss for you next year. I thought we competed well particularly in the second half considering the gulf between the two teams.

Plus Points :

LMS looks a cracking signing our man of the match deffo
Shenton looks like he's played for us for a few seasons
Set plays in the first half was good to see. Royce putting his mark on the team which is good to see.
All the players look in shape no bingo wings


Overall quite impressed

Negative Points:

Meli - half @r5ed display and still can't catch? 5h1t at full back?
Scott Moore can't pass the ball or keep hol of it? Rubbish effort he needs to improve under Royce or feck off
Defence was shocking in the 2nd half, room for improvement there?
Fosters kicking was pants, he needs to get some practice in?

Um, Warrington fans aren't going to be renting the Stobart for a full season so it's totally irrelevant what they think. Saints fans are going to be using the East Stand throughout 2011 so it is important, given that Saints club are paying rent to Halton Council, that all the fans have a good chance of seeing the screen.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. He's got this big reputation as a wonderful kicker, but the percentages just do not add up. He has one of the lowest kicking percentages in the league.

Anyone got any idea's why Saints advertised season tickets for the West Stand but have moved us all to the smaller East Stand?

id guess that they've not sold as many as they thought they would

I asked a similar question on Red Vee regarding the question of why the bigger West Stand had not been allocated to the Saints supporters, a genuine question.

But guess what, it was met with the usual abuse.

Just been told by the Club that as the East Stand is better facility wise they've therefore decided to move us all down there.

As for season ticket sales they're going "better than expected"

they way no one at the club is willing to give a straight answer over season tickets leads me to think they are less than they'd hoped for, and i'm usually a glass half full type

you know you thrive on the abuse, you know you're getting to them then!

Ah well its only what 13 home games? Plus maybe a few Cup ones then hopefully we'll have our own home then...

Quite right! me and my mate were using the game as a scouting effort for good pubs and parking etc, the Albion is looking like a good bet so far!

What has paying rent to HBC got to do with people in the East Stand watching the tele? The screen (at all grounds) goes in the safest place, where the majority can see, you've not even watched a game at Widnes with the screen in place therefore you don't know how obstructed you will be. All this for 5-6 matches a year. And here's me thinking you were renting the ground to watch what was on the pitch.

You should be pleased that such a good ground was a 20 minute drive from St Helens when you couldn't time the building of a new stadium and the end of your old one very well. Seeing the big screen isn't a big deal when you have a comfortable ground to play your rugby in in the meantime!

Actually for at least 12 matches and when a decision is being made, being able to watch the screen is very much a part of watching what is on the pitch. You will find this out should you make it back to Superleague.


There is a better ground with better facilities at Leigh. But Saints chose Widnes. Perhaps because the no.17 bus goes there.

So 12 of your home games will be on Sky this year? Lucky you, seems like alot.

I go to alot of SL games thanks, know all about the big screen. I just see your point as a major side issue that isn't really that important on the grand scheme of having somewhere to play this year when your club messed up having a stadium ready in time. You think Leigh's is better, that's your opinion that you're entitled to.

If we get into the playoffs and make it to the Challenge Cup round before the semis then feasibly yes. But that isn't the point. The point is that a lot of Saints fans can't see the screen and Saints are paying rent to play there for the season. That doesn't apply to Widnes because their away end is the East Stand.


Then try it yourself for a season and see how you like it since you think I should be ever so grateful! (I would be if Widnes were paying the rent for us!

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Most of you have been moaning that the Stobart is too small yet you think Leigh is better.

I think Leigh is better yes but I haven't been moaning about the size of the Stobart. I've only been moaning about the positioning of the screen. That's all there is to moan about so far as the Stobart is concerned, for me anyway. I like the Sports Cafe at the Hobart.