I got the papers and have not seen this anywhere.

Last thing I heard was our chairman saying that Kyle had rejected the last offer and he was going to have to see how things panned out next season on the grounds that Kyle has not proven himself yet blah blah blah etc.

This is muddled thinking IMO. Every day the cost of keeping him goes up. every decent England performance his value increases.
I know we don't have any money but I would like to make these points:

1. Whats happened to the money we are saving not paying SL £150K p.a. anymore

2. Why the feck do we let our No.1 SH go when we haven't secured the services of our No.2 SH

3. Why can't we see potential and be prepared to pay for it in advance of greatness being achieved when everyone will be after that player. Unfortunately the nature of sport is that you have to make these judgements which have an element of uncertainty in them. If we don't know what he is capable of who does?

I've read it somewhere.

Can't think where.

From [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/22/danny-mcguire-england-france-four-nationsThe Guardian[/url on 22 October.

Must admit I'm shocked to discover that Eastmond is coveted by RU.

Kids like Eastmond, Tomkins, Briscoe et al are the future of the game. He is going to be an absolute legend for you guys - wish we had him at FC!

to be fair to Eamon you have to say that Kyle is proving himself week by week at the moment and those comments are a few months old.

Bear in mind also that Sts have been stung a few times lately by promising youngsters being put on contracts that step up and up but then they don't deliver the goods. Anyone remember Hardman, Tyrer, Bannister, Smith etc?

Bannister could have a been a top second rower, had he kept his nose from the barmaids apron.

A classic case of talent to the brain, wallet to the bar.

TBH it's of no shock to me. It's a slight shock that Tomkins to RU hasn't been rumoured yet but having said that he's under contract now for a few years.

We must keep Eastmond in RL, he and Tomkins are IMO the future for England in the backs and lead an exciting crop of youngsters breaking into the SL throughout the clubs of SL.

Three of them were warned by Saints, Bannister, Moore and Tyrer about their off the field behavior.

Just to put it in perspective it happens at other clubs, Gleeson (Sean), Ashton and Ainscough at Wigan for example.

That next week is now last week!
Well done the gruaniard again.

sorry to say but jason wants him for sale asap,looking like that rl will lose out again to ru,

I don't know about the other two Rogue's but your talking crap about Tyrer

believe me i know

would hate to see him go, but if he is going to union, i think we should cash in on him now, dont wait till his contract is up next year, screw the union pigs for as much money as we can, dont see any sense in losing him for nothing, may as well let him go now

Rogues often make things up to put saints in a bad light. "i was talking to someone involved with saints...etc etc".

Its amazing how many people he knows involved at St Helens

Not true, and if you read what I posted I also said things about a couple of Wigan players.

Did I make it up about the Hargreaves and Soliola signings?

I think you essentially tell the truth or what you believe to be the truth most of the time although you do like to use some artistic licence to try to make Saints look bad at times, its to be expected though as you are a pie eater

But you made it up about Tyrer

I didn't, it was from the same source.

Well, if your source is the same source which recently advised you over the matter you PM'd me about a few months ago then you need to be looking for a new source!

He's full of $hit

We'll see.

But it wasn't the same source. I explained to you what happened, and have four others who could verify it, one a Saints season ticket holder.

I've been told if we win tonight he's signing for Sale straight after the match.

And if we lose does he stay at saints for his penalty

Good job we lost then.
I've not stopped celebrating (sic).

Anyway, he actually says he wants to stay. He said this before the game so I don't think it was conditional on the result.
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/st_helens/8358697.stm[/url

I heard this is absoulutely NAILED ON today. Hope not.