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| Gardner's no try could have been given.
Higham's try was touch and go.
He gave a knock on against Fa'asavalu when it was clearly stolen prior to Rauhihi's try.
He gave a knock on against Carvell when it was stolen prior to Gilmour's try.
Gardner's try was touch and go.
There was a clear forward pass prior to Gidley's try.
Armstrong clearly knocked on.
With the exception of all of this, the officials were brilliant.
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| He had a good game and let it flow as much as he could
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Gardner's no try could have been given. - denite no try
Higham's try was touch and go. - should have been no try
He gave a knock on against Fa'asavalu when it was clearly stolen prior to Rauhihi's try. - correct
He gave a knock on against Carvell when it was stolen prior to Gilmour's try. - correct
Gardner's try was touch and go. - correct I thought it was a knock on
There was a clear forward pass prior to Gidley's try. - correct I'm surprised Mick and Montmorency, never picked it up.
Armstrong clearly knocked on - not sure.
With the exception of all of this, the officials were brilliant.'"
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| Quote ="SaintMarshy"According to the rules it wasn't the right decision!'"
Why not?
There was nothing wrong with it, at first glance it did look like Higham knocked on, but when you look again he doesn't. It was a try
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| Quote ="Saint_Jen"Why not?
There was nothing wrong with it, at first glance it did look like Higham knocked on, but when you look again he doesn't. It was a try'"
It wasn't legal because you're not allowed to play the ball forward, it has to go backwards.
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| Quote ="SaintMarshy"It wasn't legal because you're not allowed to play the ball forward, it has to go backwards.'"
It didn't go forward.
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| Bring back Klown.
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| Smith is useless and shouldn't be refereeing any games after what he let fat Newton get away with in 2005... nevermind SL!! Who was ref in 2004 in play-offs?? Against W*gan when we got nowt all match??... mmm me thinks it was 'growler' again!! he's sh*te! End of chat...
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| Quote ="Saint_Jen"It didn't go forward.'"
It certainly did.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It certainly did.'"
If you look at the replay it was an incorrect play the ball, the player is off balance playing the ball and the ball rolls forward. Higham stretches out to pick up the ball, looks as though he,s knocked on in a double movement but he hasn't try given.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"If you look at the replay it was an incorrect play the ball, the player is off balance playing the ball and the ball rolls forward. Higham stretches out to pick up the ball, looks as though he,s knocked on in a double movement but he hasn't try given.'"
As you said the ball was played forward.so the try should have been disallowed for an incorrect play the ball, which is what I said, not that Higham knocked on.
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| Quote ="Saint_Jen"It didn't go forward.'"
Didnt go backward either. NO TRY. Incorrect play the ball, and impeding the defender to with Anderson pushing the new andy platy out the way.
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| The Higham try was absolutely correct. The ball was rolled backwards as it was placed on the ground and then the foot was used to play the ball backwards which is the players only obligation. If you watch the video you can clearly see his foot in front of the ball, as the foot plays the ball it hits the ground and bounces forwards to have been an incorrect ptb the foot would have had to knock the ball forwards from behind, this it clearly didn't do.
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| Quote ="ladyref"The Higham try was absolutely correct. The ball was rolled backwards as it was placed on the ground and then the foot was used to play the ball backwards which is the players only obligation. If you watch the video you can clearly see his foot in front of the ball, as the foot plays the ball it hits the ground and bounces forwards to have been an incorrect ptb the foot would have had to knock the ball forwards from behind, this it clearly didn't do.'"
Your a lady ref, you have no idea about this sport nor any sport. Make me a bacon butty and know your place lady.
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| Bottom line for me is that it should not have been called a try before going to the video ref. That's what they are there for.
Smith knew it was in dispute as the second the ball was played all the Saints players protested. If he couldn't see it was dodgy then he shouldn't be a ref, if he was unsighted then that's what TJs and vid refs are for.
The vid ref would have sorted the legality of the PotB. If they are not going to be used for this sort of thing then it's a waste of time having them.
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| they seem to be stopping at the very slighest thing and not letting the game flow
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| Quote ="ladyref"The Higham try was absolutely correct. The ball was rolled backwards as it was placed on the ground and then the foot was used to play the ball backwards which is the players only obligation. If you watch the video you can clearly see his foot in front of the ball, as the foot plays the ball it hits the ground and bounces forwards to have been an incorrect ptb the foot would have had to knock the ball forwards from behind, this it clearly didn't do.'"
I think you are wrong; he clearly rolls the ball back with his hand (incorrect play the ball) then when his foot touches the ball it marginally moves forward - another incorrect play the ball. That's 2 infringements already - how many do you need??!!
Having said that if we looked at every incorrect play the ball then we'd not do much else.
Should definitely have been referred to Thaler irrespective.
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| Do we really need another thread? No.
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| And while you are at it, I'll have 2 sugars.
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"Smith has single handedly lost us games in the past few years. He is lucky that DA has left the club and he is now allowed back to KR to ref a big team. He is a c0kc face and a bore in real life.'"
He never gets the rounds in either...
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| Is there a low flying plane going over, all I hear is an incessant whining sound.
Who cares? He got some wrong in Warringtons favour, he got some wrong in ours. In the end, he got more right than wrong.
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"Smith has single handedly lost us games in the past few years.'"
Knocked on and missed tackles, did he?
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| It's quiet in the off season and you wonder how to generate conversation and then the season starts and we've already got a thread bagging one of our players and then the same weekly rant about the referee is trotted out.
I am tempted to sticky this thread and just edit the thread title every week.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"It's quiet in the off season and you wonder how to generate conversation and then the season starts and we've already got a thread bagging one of our players and then the same weekly rant about the referee is trotted out.
I am tempted to sticky this thread and just edit the thread title every week.'"
Without discussion, reasoned or otherwise, this forum would cease to exist. People are entitled to their opinions, as warped as some are.
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| The game flowed, he gave both ways and generally did nothing contraversial. The only thing I will say is he needs to make a decision at the try line, rather than hiding behind the video ref
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