It would be [iannoying [/iand [ifrustrating [/iif we miss out on Manu now.

Manu was crap yesterday, totally anonymous and cost Ull on quite a few occasions with sloppy play. Now I don't like to judge a player on one performance, but it suits my agenda on this thread, so on the back of yesterday's performance I hope you sign him and he brings that fine form he's in with him.

Or he could be saving himself for next year to play infront of decent fans with quality players around him and can't wait to smash Ellis who took his wage rise?

Manu would be a quality signing! Be great to have a wide running second rower in the mould of Joynt or Gilmour again. Also his defence is nine times out of ten very solid yesterday being a exception. He was poor.

manu is past his best!

He would be a good, but not great signing. A great signing would be a world class prop, or a worldclass centre

Not sure if he is the type of player we should be going for.

Why WOULD you reel off a list of players when you know just as well as I do that a 30yo is at much greater risk of injury (and taking longer to heal) than a 20yo?

Sure, there are always exceptions and if you want to roll the dice and hope you get lucky - fine. But successions of scientifically significant samples put this argument to bed decades ago.

Does he have a history of injury?

Whilst he may break down at any point, so might any player, at any age. I presume the club think that the positives his experience brings outweighs the negatives of any injury he may, or may not, sustain in the future.

I probably wouldn't give him a three year deal though.

So basically we want no young un's unless they have a squat running style, no old un's unless they get injured, no overseas as they are just journeymen and no buy in's from other clubs as they don't play as well as they do for their original clubs.

We need 7 fast wingers, four big yard dogs and anyone who does not, currently play for the RL all stars is not what Saints need. Oh yes and another halfback, then another half back when that one is no good, and another half back because the 2nd will be no better than the first or is that 3rd?????

I can understand wanting to build a good team but as fans we seam to do it all year long, win or lose. Manu seams fair game for speculation as he is out of contract and looking around. But we do have a habit of just going on and on about who we want in or out.
Maybe I'm just narked, but I think we have a decent team compared to the rest of SL.

Has this not been made official yet?

He has a very good injury record from what I'm told.

Saints have to get the best available and IMO Manu is the best non quota player out there available. I don't care he's 32 as he's still doing the business on the pitch.

The is a lack of quality available these days and obviously we can't splash the cash like Warrington so we've got to get the best we can and IMO we've failed to do that in recent times.

If we do sign Manu next year then our pack is going to basically all overseas as it will look something like -

Laffranchi
Roby
Perry
Sia
Manu
TP/wilkin

I don't care one bit that our pack might be all overseas if it brings succes. We've still got the young lads being brought in, the likes of jones, makinson, foster, wheeler, lomax, swift etc so it's not like we ain't bringing the youth thru.

The balance of youth and senior players needs to be spot on if teams are to be successful and the last 3yr IMHO we've relied to much on the kids. Our halfbacks have been 20yr old kids, our main weapon last year and match winner with his kicks was foster and I think it's to much pressure if we've got to many young lads playing.

I agree, plus great squad depth that has coped really well with continuous injury problems. We have a good enough squad to compete for trophys, we just need a coach to get the best from them. Adding one or two top players would help of course!

IMO turner is a better signing than manu.

Surely this has now dragged on too long - 17 pages on here supports that. I was under the impression that he - Manu - was to have made a decision last week based on the comments from the Hull Management. Surely there can be little doubt that we are now being used to up his offer from Hull.

I get the impression he's already told Hull that he's leaving.

There's no word yet on the FC board as to his decision. As time goes on, the more I think he'll stay

Wouldn't hull announce he was staying if he's agreed a new deal?

They have been quick enought to discuss their dealings with both Manu and turner so imbpretty sure they would announce it if he's agreed to stay.

I just get the feeling that hull know he's off and that's why they keep telling their fans they have offered this and that to Manu to to show the fans they tried.

Exactly. Saints, or any other club for that matter, wouldn't be able to announce to Manu's signing until September 1st (unless Hull give their permission), whereas Hull would be able to make an immediate announcement if he was staying. So basically no news is good news as far as we're concerned.

Hmmm this thread till september???????/

That's my thinking also.

However, I do expect hull to make public that Manu is leaving (if true) but I doubt they will name which team he's going.

If this thread wasn't running then the forum would be totally dead.

Now that Royce has been sacked and we are winning again the has been nothing else to debate, I've been pretty bored on this forum to be honest.

i doubt they will to be honest, it'll only end in him getting booed which wont help Hull at all