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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"
I don't understand why you would split up a proven hoocker rotation system just because a new player is available. Why can't Moore play a different position?'"
Moores distribution is better, and with the way the rules are this season (they may change again once Australia crucify us) scooting from acting half-back is much less effective. That doesn't mean that just because Roby isn't named at 9 he couldn't chime in at the play the ball like an on-form Pryce often does.
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lomax
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maurie
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Moore/clough
I'd go for something like that. Maybe switch roby to 13 and wilkin to 2nd row.
The are other options in moving Moore into hooker, soliola to centre.
I'd start with the 17 and see how it goes.
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6. Pryce
7. Eastmond
8. Fozzard
9. Cunningham
10. Graham
11. Puletua
12. Wilkin
13. Flannery
14. Roby/Moore
15. Wheeler
16. Clough
17. Maurie
Pretty good side is that. Especially if Lomax and Wheeler come on strong.
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2. Foster
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6. Pryce
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8. Fozzard
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10. Graham
11. Puletua
12. Flannery
13. Wilkin
14. Roby/Cunningham
15. Wheeler/Meli/A.N.Other
16. Clough
17. Maurie
Means we are a bit light in replacement forwards off the bench but there is sufficient size on the field that if we spell sensibly there will always be enough grunt going forward. Failing that and us not signing an additional prop before feb, we'll have to continue using TP out of position.
Gardner after his season, and after the final alone Meli, need to earn their places from the reserves for mine.
Pryce is only in at 6 for the reasons other posters have stated in other threads regarding playing two rookies. Wilkin needs to be given a more creative chance and plenty of off season practice in in field kicking.
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| No [iScott Moore[/i Blobbs?
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"Wilkin needs to be given a more creative chance and plenty of off season practice in in field kicking.'"
Well, Potter has announced post Grand Final that we need to sort out our kicking game.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"No [iScott Moore[/i Blobbs?'"
Yeah, just noticed that. Oh feck it, I don't know who I'd pick.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well, Potter has announced post Grand Final that we need to sort out our kicking game.'"
Well given we haven't got one at all now Shaun's gone i'd say that was an understatement
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"2. Foster'"
Crazy.
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| Quote ="McClennan"My current starting 17 for opening day next year.
1 - Wellens
2 - Gardner
3 - Gidley
4 - Soliola
5 - Meli
6 - Pryce
7 - Eastmond
8 - Fozzard
9 - Cunningham
10 - Graham
11 - Flannery
12 - Wilkin
13 - Roby
14 - Moore
15 - Puletua
16 - Fa'asavalu
17 - Clough'"
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| Quote ="McClennan"Crazy.'"
Not that crazy McLa, if he can bulk up enough in the off season there no reason why he can't be spelled there (85kg to Ade's 94kg), he's a centre by trade anyway so is used to that area of the field, and if what we hear is true his step is bound to be better than Ade's. I expect he'll have closer to 20:20 vision than Ade, was only a cm shorter according to last season's stats. Plus he'll be playing inside one of the best defenders in the team.
In fairness I would've put Armstrong in there given he has already been tried in that position but i'm led to believe he'll be at Widnes next year.
We have tried kids in every other position this year chief and Gardner has hardly been outstanding this year and hasn't shown any signs of improving his game, what's wrong with trying?
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| The only half-way genuine reason I can see for promoting Foster to the first team is his goal-kicking.
Aside from that - what has he done?
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"Snip'"
How many games has he played at first grade? IIRC he didn't appear once last year and yet you're suggesting that with a bit of work on the weights he can step in the place of a relatively seasoned pro. Crazy idea. There's every chance he may get a break or force his way into the team and he may do that next year. However I'm not prepared to take that chance on the back of a hunch that extra weight will render him more effective and more game aware than a guy who has played in four consecutive Grand Finals.
I won't argue with the choice of Lomax because he's already shown he has some potential at first grade. If we'd have thrown Lomax in at the start of last year it would also have been crazy. You can't just throw youngsters to the lions especially when the terraces are full of bloodthirsty Romans waiting to jump on who they deem to be the next expendable slave to our cause.
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| Why on earth are people picking Eastmond, Wheeler and, lord love a duck, Roby ahead of Pryce at number six. Pryce has a dip in form and all of a sudden we're shipping him out to centre or wing (wing ffs!). Wasn't Pryce our top try scorer least year despite not hitting his best form? (He topped our try assists column as well). Absolute madness.
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Roby
Moore
Clough
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The Cabbage
Gidley
Wheeler
Franny
=whiteLeon Pryce
Kyle Eastmond
Big Red
The King
Fozz
Soliola
TP
Roby
Moore
Clough
Maurie
Bryn/Frodsham/Emmitt/Ashurst/Dixon'"
I see what you did there
Or not.
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"I see what you did there
Or not.'"
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| Quote ="McClennan"My current starting 17 for opening day next year.
1 - Wellens
2 - Gardner
3 - Gidley
4 - Dean/Wheeler
5 - Meli
6 - Pryce
7 - Eastmond
8 - Graham
9 - Moore
10 - Puletua
11 - Flannery
12 - Soliola
13 - Wilkin
14 - Roby
15 - Fozzard
16 - Fa'asavalu
17 - Clough'"
Ditto on that 17. However depending on conditions and opponents there may be variations, for example Fozzy starting with Puletua at 13
I expect KC to play a less important role more so as the season progresses, though he will probably still wear the number 9 shirt for symbolic reasons more than anything else.
It would be good for example to utilise KC when there are a number of injuries to key players. His old head would be excellent for steadying the ship and providing direction.
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| I'm certain that next season we'll see both Wheeler & Lomax fill out and not just make the grade but exceed it.
If Frodsham bulks up in the off-season and is fully fit we might, just might - fingers crossed - be able to cut Bryn loose.
Ideally we need a couple of 'breakthrough' players, too. It'll be like winning the lottery if Foster/Armstrong can exert pressure on Gardner and one of Yates, Dixon, Ashurst & Magennis pops his head above the parapet (probably Magennis)
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| Quote ="McClennan"How many games has he played at first grade? IIRC he didn't appear once last year and yet you're suggesting that with a bit of work on the weights he can step in the place of a relatively seasoned pro. Crazy idea. There's every chance he may get a break or force his way into the team and he may do that next year. However I'm not prepared to take that chance on the back of a hunch that extra weight will render him more effective and more game aware than a guy who has played in four consecutive Grand Finals.
I won't argue with the choice of Lomax because he's already shown he has some potential at first grade. If we'd have thrown Lomax in at the start of last year it would also have been crazy. You can't just throw youngsters to the lions especially when the terraces are full of bloodthirsty Romans waiting to jump on who they deem to be the next expendable slave to our cause.'"
I agree with the reasoning behind what you are saying but is that not what we have done this year with many of the kids? including Armstrong in a similar position, albeit due to more pressing reasons i.e. Meli being ridiculously stranded at home?
I merely picked Foster based on his reputation as expressed to me by people within the club and his abilities at centre. I find this no more or less crazy than us giving Armstrong the spot in the first 4 games or Wheeler the starting birth on the wing as we did in the following game against Salford. As I stated I would have named Armstrong in my lineup ahead of him based on his showings at the start of this year, but for his allegedly being loaned out.
My comments about Foster's weight etc were put in to suggest that [uphysically[/u his size is similar to Ade's though admittedly he was lighter weight this year, which i believe has been cited as 1 of the reasons he hasn't been used this year since the preseason games. I was by no means suggesting that a bit of gym work could replace years of 1st grade experience, i'm not [uthat[/u naive.
That said TBH I couldn't care less about Ade having four consecutive Grand Final appearances under his belt if he has underperformed in the last 3 and for most of the past season. Bryn has played in 2 consecutive Grand Finals now and many would happily replace him with Frodsham next year providing he grows some. And lest we forget the familiar fact that Rickey Bibey has two challenge cup medals in his collection, the point being that these achievements stand for nowt if their contribution to the team throughout the year is minimal and could potentially be replicated by someone with much less experience.
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| Quote ="Doseymarker"Wellens
Gardner
Gidley
Soliola
Meli
Eastmond
Moore
Graham
Roby
Fozzard
Flannery
Wilkin
Puletua
Pryce'"
Is there some rule change I'm not aware of?
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Is there some rule change I'm not aware of?'"
We played with 14 at Cass last year and got away with it, for about 30 seconds.
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