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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I agree with this. If we thought Eastmond really was the future, we should have got him on a 5yr deal. Yes theres some risk involved, but it does seem everyone at the club had our future pinned on him'"
Could have been on a 5 year until his agent got inside his head.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Could have been on a 5 year until his agent got inside his head.'"
Who was his agent again
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| Quote ="Two Wheeled Saint"Who was his agent again
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Hopefully he stays in Chiswick where he can,t do any more damage.
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| His agent got him the best deal possible which Agents are supposed to do. Given the abuse Eastmond got from the St Helens fans (which at times was down right disgusting) purely for looking after himself and his family, I wouldn't blame him for never stepping foot in rugby league again
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| Quote ="Lebron James"His agent got him the best deal possible which Agents are supposed to do. Given the abuse Eastmond got from the St Helens fans (which at times was down right disgusting) purely for looking after himself and his family, I wouldn't blame him for never stepping foot in rugby league again
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The fans did what they were supposed to do, they looked after their own and made sure that if Eastmond was going to leave he would probably never set foot in RL again. They in addition made sure that other players also knew that mercenary behavior would be reacted to unfavorably. And so others would not be so keen to act in the same way in future.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"The fans did what they were supposed to do, they looked after their own and made sure that if Eastmond was going to leave he would probably never set foot in RL again. They in addition made sure that other players also knew that mercenary behavior would be reacted to unfavorably. And so others would not be so keen to act in the same way in future.
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What exactly did he do wrong ?
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| Quote ="Lebron James"His agent got him the best deal possible which Agents are supposed to do. Given the abuse Eastmond got from the St Helens fans (which at times was down right disgusting) purely for looking after himself and his family, I wouldn't blame him for never stepping foot in rugby league again
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Saints treated him very well until Eastmond showed disloyalty and misconduct, its the first time I,ve ever seen a saints player gesture to his fans and show so much disinterest to his fellow team mates in match play.
Eastmond player nearly 80 games for Saints in his 4 years introductory, in 3 years he has played 23 games for Bath and is anonymous over long periods. So you are correct in saying he is looking after himself..............money for nothing.......is the best descript.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Saints treated him very well until Eastmond showed disloyalty and misconduct, its the first time I,ve ever seen a saints player gesture to his fans and show so much disinterest to his fellow team mates in match play.
Eastmond player nearly 80 games for Saints in his 4 years introductory, in 3 years he has played 23 games for Bath and is anonymous over long periods. So you are correct in saying he is looking after himself..............money for nothing.......is the best descript.'"
At the end of the day it's his job. It's a short career and need to get what you can. It's sad but it's a fact. It's not just a game to players but it's a job.
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| Kyle made the decision most of us would, he's not a St.Helens lad so has no real ties to the town. I'd have made the same choice, but the way it was handled could have been better. A statement or two on how he loved the club and the fans but couldnt turn down this opportunity etc would have placated the masses
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Kyle made the decision most of us would, he's not a St.Helens lad so has no real ties to the town. I'd have made the same choice, but the way it was handled could have been better. A statement or two on how he loved the club and the fans but couldnt turn down this opportunity etc would have placated the masses'"
He was wrong to show the fingers to the fans and that basically was the end of him at saints no matter what but was the fans right to get on his back for him wanting to go?
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| Quote ="St pete"He was wrong to show the fingers to the fans and that basically was the end of him at saints no matter what but was the fans right to get on his back for him wanting to go?'"
fans will always do that, like i said, if he'd have issued a statement saying he loved saints and the fans, but want to try something else etc there'd have been nearly no animosity
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"fans will always do that, like i said, if he'd have issued a statement saying he loved saints and the fans, but want to try something else etc there'd have been nearly no animosity'"
He was only a young lad, his advisors or his idiot agent should have done that and protected him better.
Shame really as IMO he was the best kid we'd produced in a long time
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| Quote ="St pete"He was only a young lad, his advisors or his idiot agent should have done that and protected him better.
Shame really as IMO he was the best kid we'd produced in a long time'"
i completely agree its his agents fault, and we all know who that is
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"i completely agree its his agents fault, and we all know who that is'"
But at the end if the day, that agent has made his client a helm of alot of cash.
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| Quote ="St pete"But at the end if the day, that agent has made his client a helm of alot of cash.'"
indeed, and thats his job, but he could have easily done that without getting his client abused
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"indeed, and thats his job, but he could have easily done that without getting his client abused'"
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| So who was his agent?
I seem to recall it was Offiah when Eastmond extended his contract at Saints but by the time he left he had switched agents. Was his new one Clark's brother?
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| Quote ="St pete"He was wrong to show the fingers to the fans and that basically was the end of him at saints no matter what but was the fans right to get on his back for him wanting to go?'"
That was only part of it, prior to that McManus put in a good new contract offer, Eastmond became more indecisive as his agent seemed to have already made his mind up where his client is going to go.
That indecision and agent invovement "miffed" McManus to no end, the end point was Eastmond became very unprofessional and spit his dummy out, afterwards James Graham showed how it should have been done with transparency and playing 100% up to his last game.
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| Eastmond had already made his mind up that he was going to Rugby Union back in 2009. I don't know of it's still available (mods) but check my post around about 1st August 2009 on him.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Eastmond had already made his mind up that he was going to Rugby Union back in 2009. I don't know of it's still available (mods) but check my post around about 1st August 2009 on him.'"
It appears to be consigned to history.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"It appears to be consigned to history.'"
Travis Burns Thread
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He's been left years, move on and get back to Saints
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| Quote ="wirefox"Travis Burns Thread
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He's been left years, move on and get back to Saints'"
t may have got a little derailed, but the reason we're scrabbling about for Burns, who is a great player but hardly the future of saints is because of past decisions.
What to do after next year? Walsh will probably be off (hopefully after a successful season) and we'll still be a halfback and a backup hooker down!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"t may have got a little derailed, but the reason we're scrabbling about for Burns, who is a great player but hardly the future of saints is because of past decisions.
What to do after next year? Walsh will probably be off (hopefully after a successful season) and we'll still be a halfback and a backup hooker down!'"
Walsh has the option of another year after the next , maybe having his good mate Travis here to keep him company will influence him to take it. We will also need to see how Walsh recovers from his injury, even when he is training and gets back playing his [ifull[/i recovery may take a considerable time.
I'd love to think the club is thinking a few years ahead but given how we've been caught out so badly in the recent past I'm not convinced
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| May I put in a lone voice of dissent here without being pounced on?
I am not excited about Burns coming to Saints, I rate him as above average but that's all.
It leaves the question; if not Burns then who - and I really do not know the answer to that , but it looks a bit like panic buying.
surely there are some good rookies in the NRL who can't get in the 1st team but are better than anything we have over here?
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