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| I really hope Gruntfuttock hasn't stopped updating us because of that stupid comment posted by some Rhino troll. His service was invaluable to me, being an out of towner.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I really hope Gruntfuttock hasn't stopped updating us because of that stupid comment posted by some Rhino troll. His service was invaluable to me, being an out of towner.'"
I was thinking that a couple of days ago. It's been ages since we've had the Gruntfuttocks' contribution. I'm missing their pictures and their updates.
Hope you're still out there Mr & Mrs G!
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| I hope the updated pictures keep coming as well (even though im a Bulls fan) i,ve enjoyed this thread.
And cant wait to visit when your in your new home.
Oh and this post is NOT a take.
Odsal (Grattan) stadium need this sort of investment just a pity most people in Bradford dont have,dont care,or arnt interested in investing in this sort of thing.
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| Quote ="bullsfan"And cant wait to visit when your in your new home.
Oh and this post is NOT a mickey take.'"
I'm gald you are, and I hope its not just because KR was a bit of a dive but, like me, you're excited about all the stadium plans being announced (york and Cas seem to be making progress). We have a great game, and it deserves to be played in great stadia.
The more great grounds we have, the more coporate work we'll get and the better the profile of the sport.
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| Merry Christmas Mr & Mrs Gruntfuttock please keep up the good work. I live in Haydock but still like to view the photos, sterling job keep your thread going mate.
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| From what I've heard, we will be lucky to play in the new stadium before July 2012.
Looks like we will be doing a season and half at Widnes.
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| Quote ="St pete"From what I've heard, we will be lucky to play in the new stadium before July 2012.
Looks like we will be doing a season and half at Widnes.'"
What have you heard?
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| Quote ="St pete"From what I've heard, we will be lucky to play in the new stadium before July 2012.
Looks like we will be doing a season and half at Widnes.'"
Should see steelwork rising by March.
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| Quote ="The Doghead"Should see steelwork rising by March.'"
They bolting the steel to soil?
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| Quote ="St pete"They bolting the steel to soil?'"
pile driving starts in about a month. maybe earlier.
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| Quote ="St pete"From what I've heard, we will be lucky to play in the new stadium before July 2012.
Looks like we will be doing a season and half at Widnes.'"
So it's not just me then
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| Quote ="St pete"From what I've heard, we will be lucky to play in the new stadium before July 2012.
Looks like we will be doing a season and half at Widnes.'"
What a surprise (not). Hey Ho.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So it's not just me then'"
Neither you or Pete have given any reason as to why you think it will take 2 years or more to build Saints new stadium, when similar sized stadium have all been built in approximately 1 year.
Nor have you taken any notice of the contractual obligations of the builders, who have even stated on their website when the stadium and Tescos will be finished by.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Neither you or Pete have given any reason as to why you think it will take 2 years or more to build Saints new stadium, when similar sized stadium have all been built in approximately 1 year.
Nor have you taken any notice of the contractual obligations of the builders, who have even stated on their website when the stadium and Tescos will be finished by.'"
There is an alien spaceship buried deep under the new stadium site. It will be found and cause a 12 month delay while the Government decides how best to tax it's perpetual motion fuel system.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"There is an alien spaceship buried deep under the new stadium site. It will be found and cause a 12 month delay while the Government decides how best to tax it's perpetual motion fuel system.'"
Not forgetting the court procedings to decide who will pay all the parking tickets that will be issued on the spaceship, plus the Council will have to appeal the ConDem Government implementation of the Entry zone restriction charge of £10 (this will go to fund a Ground for the Pie eaters) similar to the one in Central London, Boris Cromwell will be transferred from the Big Smoke to implement the Scheme. (the Libdems had it in their Manifesto). a Happy and Prosperous New Year to all Rugby fans
Especially Saddened who enriches our lives with so much Joy and Hope and Rogues for constantly reminding us who supported Wigan as a lad.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Neither you or Pete have given any reason as to why you think it will take 2 years or more to build Saints new stadium, when similar sized stadium have all been built in approximately 1 year.
Nor have you taken any notice of the contractual obligations of the builders, who have even stated on their website when the stadium and Tescos will be finished by.'"
It was just what I was told by someone I'd expect to know as he has been in meetings about the new stadium.
Im also in the construction game and hope to get a contract on the new
saints stadium.
From what I'm told, it's a 60 week build. I'm also told the ground needs to be piled which ain't even started yet!
So if the build started 1st next month, it would be built for say 1st April. That's if everything runs to plan and in this game just the weather can set a project back a good while.
If I'm being honest I would say from what I can see that may/June will be more like it.
Ps I was also told the Bolton based firm doing that was doing the precast concrete for stadium went bust last month.
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| Thanks for all your comments folks , no the Troll did`nt put us off, you will have to put up with us for a long time yet, its just with the snow there wasnt an awfull lot to see, i didnt think even the out of towners wanted to see a flat white open space, rest assured the Gruntfuttock News Agency will be back posting as soon as there is anything to see
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Quote ="St pete"It was just what I was told by someone I'd expect to know as he has been in meetings about the new stadium.
Im also in the construction game and hope to get a contract on the new
saints stadium.
From what I'm told, it's a 60 week build. I'm also told the ground needs to be piled which ain't even started yet!
So if the build started 1st next month, it would be built for say 1st April. That's if everything runs to plan and in this game just the weather can set a project back a good while.
If I'm being honest I would say from what I can see that may/June will be more like it.
Ps I was also told the Bolton based firm doing that was doing the precast concrete for stadium went bust last month.'"
The contract is indeed one for 60 weeks. This commenced the end of August. Barrs website clearly shows the contractual timeline
www.barr-construction.co.uk/case ... e-stadium/
Piling is due to start this month. The official schedule on a planning document i posted earlier in this thread, talks of the last week in January. So this will give an indication of if the stadium is ahead of schedule or behind schedule, and by how much.
Re the alleged firm doing the Pre cast concrete going bust. Are you sure they are the actual contractor or is this just heresay?
Reason i ask this is that Barr do their own in house Pre Casting
www.barr.co.uk/precast.html
With regard to timelines to build stadia and Tescos. Here is a case study on Barrs own Website looking at the Warrington build which is very similar to Saints.
www.barr-construction.co.uk/case ... arrington/
This project was Started in March and finished in October of the same year.
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Quote ="St pete"It was just what I was told by someone I'd expect to know as he has been in meetings about the new stadium.
Im also in the construction game and hope to get a contract on the new
saints stadium.
From what I'm told, it's a 60 week build. I'm also told the ground needs to be piled which ain't even started yet!
So if the build started 1st next month, it would be built for say 1st April. That's if everything runs to plan and in this game just the weather can set a project back a good while.
If I'm being honest I would say from what I can see that may/June will be more like it.
Ps I was also told the Bolton based firm doing that was doing the precast concrete for stadium went bust last month.'"
The contract is indeed one for 60 weeks. This commenced the end of August. Barrs website clearly shows the contractual timeline
www.barr-construction.co.uk/case ... e-stadium/
Piling is due to start this month. The official schedule on a planning document i posted earlier in this thread, talks of the last week in January. So this will give an indication of if the stadium is ahead of schedule or behind schedule, and by how much.
Re the alleged firm doing the Pre cast concrete going bust. Are you sure they are the actual contractor or is this just heresay?
Reason i ask this is that Barr do their own in house Pre Casting
www.barr.co.uk/precast.html
With regard to timelines to build stadia and Tescos. Here is a case study on Barrs own Website looking at the Warrington build which is very similar to Saints.
www.barr-construction.co.uk/case ... arrington/
This project was Started in March and finished in October of the same year.
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| Like I said mate, it's just what I was told the Monday before Christmas.
IMO I think it will be finished around may time.
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"Thanks for all your comments folks , no the Troll did`nt put us off, you will have to put up with us for a long time yet, its just with the snow there wasnt an awfull lot to see, i didnt think even the out of towners wanted to see a flat white open space, rest assured the Gruntfuttock News Agency will be back posting as soon as there is anything to see'"
Splendid! I'm looking forward to some more action shots care of Gruntfuttock News Agency!
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| Just checked the links that chair maker left on his post.
It seems barr are also doing the demolition and site clearance which seems to be included in the 60 week build contract.
I may of not heard correct or my mate has wrong end of the stick.
From looking at site pics and IF the project started on time then the is a strong chance we will only be at Widnes for one year.
On the subject of the precast concrete, I was told Barr would be using tayban in Bolton. It might have just been a rumour but if it's true, tayban have gone bust and took a guy I know for 80k
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| Quote ="St pete"Just checked the links that chair maker left on his post.
It seems barr are also doing the demolition and site clearance which seems to be included in the 60 week build contract.
I may of not heard correct or my mate has wrong end of the stick.
From looking at site pics and IF the project started on time then the is a strong chance we will only be at Widnes for one year.
On the subject of the precast concrete, I was told Barr would be using tayban in Bolton. It might have just been a rumour but if it's true, tayban have gone bust and took a guy I know for 80k'"
As with many things concerning Saints, there is always a lot of rumour and conjecture, some of it is based on the truth, but mostly its merely gossip.
The difficulty is often identifying the facts of whats really happening.
Hope ive put your mind at rest re some of your concerns.
As with all things though concerning construction, there is a lot yet that could happen, that could throw a spanner in the works, and make your doom laden prophesy come true.
Im personally confident of the stadium being completed this year, but im not over confident.
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| Quote ="St pete"Just checked the links that chair maker left on his post.
It seems barr are also doing the demolition and site clearance which seems to be included in the 60 week build contract.
I may of not heard correct or my mate has wrong end of the stick.
From looking at site pics and IF the project started on time then the is a strong chance we will only be at Widnes for one year.
On the subject of the precast concrete, I was told Barr would be using tayban in Bolton. It might have just been a rumour but if it's true, tayban have gone bust and took a guy I know for 80k'"
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Thomas Armstrong Group
Posted on Monday the 25th October 2010
The Thomas Armstrong Group have acquired the trade and assets of Tayban Developments Limited on 30th September 2010. The new organisation will trade under the name of Tayban Concrete Products (2010) Ltd.
The employees of the former business have been retained thus securing the knowledge, skills and experience within the new organisation.
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| Quote ="The Doghead"Noticeboard
Thomas Armstrong Group
Posted on Monday the 25th October 2010
The Thomas Armstrong Group have acquired the trade and assets of Tayban Developments Limited on 30th September 2010. The new organisation will trade under the name of Tayban Concrete Products (2010) Ltd.
The employees of the former business have been retained thus securing the knowledge, skills and experience within the new organisation.'"
Most of the employees are now working for a Manchester based precast firm based on Trafford park.
Are you sure that the firm "tayban" have not gone bust in December 2010?
I know a few guys who deal with tayban and I know few of the lads working for them who now work intrafford park Manchester.
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| OK no work on the site obviously but now the snow has melted you can see the layout on the ground clearly and I have to say it looks a LOT bigger than I imagined, if i am reading it correctly the lighter areas are where the stands are going to go and obviously the dark area is the pitch and outfield
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