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| Quote ="Saddened!"He pleaded guilty because the system is a farce. You plead not guilty and they ban you just to prove a point. In that situation they are never going to accept a denial because it would invalidate the decision of the officials and they would never allow it.'"
I agree, the system is sh*te, players plead guilty to reduce the punishment, even though there may be no guilt in the so called offence. They know that rulings are seldom overturned because that would mean that officials GOT IT WRONG and that would never do. It’s Popeye the Thaler-man who should be judged. Why will they (Thaler & Co.) never admit later that they got something wrong?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He pleaded guilty because the system is a farce. You plead not guilty and they ban you just to prove a point. In that situation they are never going to accept a denial because it would invalidate the decision of the officials and they would never allow it.'"
As confirmed on the Saints website. Rush has stated that they pled guilty 'under duress' because they didn't want to risk the two match ban. He then goes on to explain how it wasn't like Sam Moa's.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Given that he pleaded guilty, I think you can stop your refusal to accept that there was no contact with his head. It's making you look daft.'"
[url=http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2176See here.[/url
It would appear that Rush and the club are as daft as me then!
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| I think Saddened was more the point in that as the referees interpretation of a bad tackle goes worse there is some form of protectism by the disciplinary to the ineptness of a referee.
I,m pretty sure if the referee had put the incident on report, the disciplinary would have gone with a warning letter concerning shoulder technique, but as he was shown a red card the disciplinary had to show justification to it.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"[url=http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2176See here.[/url
It would appear that Rush and the club are as daft as me then!'"
Where does he say that there was no contact with the head there?
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I think Saddened was more the point in that as the referees interpretation of a bad tackle goes worse there is some form of protectism by the disciplinary to the ineptness of a referee.
I,m pretty sure if the referee had put the incident on report, the disciplinary would have gone with a warning letter concerning shoulder technique, but as he was shown a red card the disciplinary had to show justification to it.'"
They could have gone with sending off sufficient.
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| Quote ="Kernel"Just seen the TP hit, i cant believe they even gave a penalty for that.... Shockingly soft, like the red cards for the millenium magic fight. What is our game becoming... Back chat to referees, no physical contact, this is like La Liga.'"
Agreed, the game is becoming soft.
We'll have players diving like footballers next.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Agreed, the game is becoming soft.'" And those berks in the commentary box aren't helping either.
I was watching the FC/KR game the other day. Jake Webster was struggling (albeit quite dramatically) to get the tackle off the top of him and Eddie nearly wet his pants.
"Jake Webster's elbowing *insert player's name* - oh my golly gosh!"
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Where does he say that there was no contact with the head there?'"
An expanded statement on this from Rush and TP in this week's League Weekly. Worth a read.
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| Trying to think who put the shoulder charge in last night, was it Cloughy.
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| Two shots in tonight's game that were worse than TP's but nobody got sent off.
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"Two shots in tonight's game that were worse than TP's but nobody got sent off.'"
I don't think they were worse, but gave very good arguments for the shoulder charge to be outlawed.
As I said about the TP incident, lets see how the disciplinary sort it out.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Quote ="Harry Pinner"Two shots in tonight's game that were worse than TP's but nobody got sent off.'"
I don't think they were worse, but gave very good arguments for the shoulder charge to be outlawed.
As I said about the TP incident, lets see how the disciplinary sort it out.'"
You don't think Webb's was worse? Charging with a raised forearm?
Also, why do illegal shoulder charges create 'very good arguments' for legal shoulder charges to be outlawed? Attacking the head is dangerous no matter what part of the body hits it.
Let's not listen to moronic statements from the likes of Stevo.
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| Webb jumped into that one as well to make sure he got higher. A bit different to TP who wasn't even standing fully upright.
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| I AGREE, AGAIN, TP was hard done by, Webb’s shot tonight was at least as bad, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets off with nowt! I’m really not trying to be nasty, but how long is this thread going to go on for? I’m sure Tony P’s over it now and looking forward to Monday, so stop kicking it, its gone, time out. You were right they were wrong, END OF!
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| To be honest I think it's only carrying on because there's been a rash of similar challenges which have been met with completely inconsistent treatment by the officials. It's another one of those things that gets completely different treatment for TV and non-TV games.
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| Both Webb and Wilkes charged with grade B offences. As I said let the disciplinary sort it out.
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"I AGREE, AGAIN, TP was hard done by, Webb’s shot tonight was at least as bad, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets off with nowt! =#FF0000I’m really not trying to be nasty, but how long is this thread going to go on for? I’m sure Tony P’s over it now and looking forward to Monday, so stop kicking it, its gone, time out. You were right they were wrong, END OF!
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So why did you post?????
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| The decision not to send Webb off was disgraceful, but not surprising with Silverwood though
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| Quote ="Benidorm John"So why did you post?????'"
I thought that would be obvious, to do what the sites are meant for TO GIVE AN OPINION, like you! But tell me, how can someone say that they think (a personal opinion admittedly) that a thread has gone on long enough, without putting it on that thread? Mental telepathy? Grow up!
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