I don't get this "mechano kit" rubbish. Ok our ground may not be the biggest, may not be the best, but it is ours. It was built mainly for use a rugby league ground, it holds the largest function room in warrington, and also houses an nhs clinic.

It also has the prospect to be expanded. I think Saints ground us gonna look great, but I thank the lord the HJ came when it did, mechano or not!

I'd be disappointed if i was a saints fan that the ground is not 18,000 all seated. I still shake my head when i see blokes walking to the 'newly built' HJ stadium, with milk crates and stools for their kids to stand on so they can see. The architects need to watch a match kneeling down on terracing to experience the view anyone under 5'8" gets before they design a new stadium with terracing.

I would think terracing would be a request from the customer ( the club ) and not just in the mind of the architect!

As I have posted time and time again. In 2007/8, Saints did a series of surveys around the borough. It focused on schools and why people weren't attending.

Knowsley Road, for some part of St Helens, is 3 bus journey's away. The new stadium is a five minute walk away from any bus trip from any part of town.

For people from St Helens, this is a massive plus, it takes away the need to drive and risk parking down Dodd Avenue and other areas.

Saints expect the rise to come mainly from people (be they juniors with their mates, or families) coming from their homes in the borough.

the fans wanted.


(Look how many football fans you see standing in all-seater stadia at Premier League games !).

Plus terracing reduces the build costs of the stadium.

So some of the fans views are allowed to influence what the majority would want. I feel its the wrong decision.
I am aware the cost will be lower, but again its short sighted, i feel, and just think what an 18,000 all seater purpose built RL stadium would be like. You would then have some of the best facilities in the country. Now you will have an ok stadium where a good proportion of the crowd will find it difficult to see the game when the ground is full.

It was a sizeable number of fans who voiced their opinion that they would prefer standing areas within the new ground and the club listened.Giving the supporters the option to sit or stand,where there is no legal reason to have an all-seater stadium,is what was requested and what was delivered.

Largely empty looking I should think! But if fans fall out with the idea of standing, seats can be put in. It won't be the same capacity but it will be all-seater. However, lots of fans wanted to stand. They preferred to stand along the sides, but behind the sticks will do. I want to stand. I want to be free to jump up and down, and to change my view, albeit with limited variation given the position behind the sticks. But lots of fans are going to miss the freedom they had at Knowsley Road and being able to stand is one way of maintaining that.

I just hope the atmosphere in the Wide to West end can be something similar to the Pop Side. It won't ever be the same, but maybe we can get something going.

A choice or seating and standing is what the majority of fans wanted and thats what they are getting.

As I stand at 6' 4" tall I am more than happy I can stand at our new stadium, as most stadia's in the UK don't cater for larger people generally.

I am 5ft and have rarely had a problem with view when standing, I get in early enough I can position myself where I should be fine, if there is a problem its easy enough to move when stood anyway (not that I can remember the last time I had to). If anything I have had more problems when sitting as I seem to always end up with the giants sat in front of me!

I will be sitting in the new ground as it will be easier with 2 young children hopefully attending games within the next few seasons. If it wasn't for that though I would have happily stood at the new ground.

Just ask Sadfish to move if he's sat infront of you

Stood in front of you is worse!!!

Thank you, whilst arguing for your new stadium as it will be you make my point for me, "I will be sitting in the new ground as it will be easier with 2 young children"

Why exactly does that mean that there shouldn't be the option to sit or stand as there is now?

Just because my personal preference has changed it certainly doesn't mean that is what everyone else will want.

And what's even better about the new stadium is that like it or not the majority of you Goons are going to have to stand behind the sticks, as only a tiny proportion of seating, tucked away in the far corner, has been allocated for Away fans.

he gets the full force of my farts most matches!

So it feckin is you!!!!

virtually every away section at every ground is behind the posts

About time you lot got a new ground Knowsley road was about 30 years outta date, Never could see the match when full house......... It was the worst ground in SL.
One time the ball got kicked on the roof of the stand i was covered in asbestos dust , Health hazard ........Should of been closed down many years ago.

you're up early when its not a school day !!!!!!!!!!!!

School day lmao i wish .............

tell us something we didnt know ANYWAY TO GET MY THREAD BACK ON TOPIC!! update piccys and a couple of videos of the new roundabout complete with traffic jam ! www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRRyUaA23BM www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SAwssGVhlU

tell us something we didnt know ANYWAY TO GET MY THREAD BACK ON TOPIC!! update piccys and a couple of videos of the new roundabout complete with traffic jam ! www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRRyUaA23BM www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SAwssGVhlU

Never experience the exploding light bulbs at central park then

Good work Grunt, let's not start on the music! Haha only kidding.

That roundabout and surrounding road better get used to traffic standing still!