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| He's just too old to risk a silly two or three year deal. I mean, he could well sign for someone and play every match until the end of his contract. But think of the enormous damage that could be done to a club's recruitment plan if he were to sustain some kind of chronic groin or shoulder injury (like a Sculthorpe or a Bradley Clyde) which isn't serious enough to bring about early retirement but nonetheless leaves him repeatedly sidelined for seemingly interminable periods.
We might as well throw his entire contract in fifty pound notes on the centre spot and set fire to it.
If he were five years younger - sure. But our current pack isn't so bad that we need to spend silly money on a back row when we haven't even got a regular and effective playmaker.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Problem with keeping secrets is if the player tells one person, then they are more than likely to tell others. Secrets only work when one person is involved.'"
Exactly,
Every man and his dog knew that Saints had signed LMS and Shenton well before it was "officially" announced.
I hope these two signings from Hull are just as good.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"He's just too old to risk a silly two or three year deal. I mean, he could well sign for someone and play every match until the end of his contract. But think of the enormous damage that could be done to a club's recruitment plan if he were to sustain some kind of chronic groin or shoulder injury (like a Sculthorpe or a Bradley Clyde) which isn't serious enough to bring about early retirement but nonetheless leaves him repeatedly sidelined for seemingly interminable periods.
We might as well throw his entire contract in fifty pound notes on the centre spot and set fire to it.
If he were five years younger - sure. But our current pack isn't so bad that we need to spend silly money on a back row when we haven't even got a regular and effective playmaker.'"
What you say is common sense, however, over the last few years, saonts injury crisis has been all about the younger players. We signed soliola in his prime, and lost him for a year. Shenton similarly. In general our old fellas have proven to be more robust than the kids. Let's not even throw wheeler and co ibto tge argument
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Saints have not touched the extra 300k that you can spend on a England internation ontop of the salary cap, that was brought in to keep Tomkins. '"
Woah! Where has this extra £300k come from?
The salary cap rules this year has a possible extra £300k allowances on the cap but they are for various (homegrown players, 10 yrs service, non rl playing background). There isn't a "marquee player" allowance.
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| 5'10" and 17st? he's not small!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"5'10" and 17st? he's not small!'"
Only 1kg lighter than Josh Perry. He must have an incredible muscle structure to carry that weight but not look massive, he's incredibly quick for that weight too.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Only 1kg lighter than Josh Perry. He must have an incredible muscle structure to carry that weight but not look massive, he's incredibly quick for that weight too.'"
For 5'10" thats huge, a very good athlete
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| Funny, he doesn't look that big close up, but has immense compact strength.
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| i do remember huddersfield giants thinking they had danny tickle in the bag when he was out of contract in 2009, yet he chose to re-sign for us, fc, at the last moment,leaving the giants admin stunned! until it is announced don't count your chickens!
(although im not holding my breath on this one)
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| [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-FC-Manu-make-2013-intentions-clear/story-15863704-detail/story.htmlLooks like we may find out shortly.[/url
I'll be gutted if he leaves Hull. He's one player who, when he gets the ball, you know will almost certainly beat at least one man and often two or three. Like has already been stated, he's immensely strong and very quick and never seems to give penalties away which, for a player who is so robust, is remarkable.
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| Quote ="Rommel"www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/4268113/Top-of-the-League.html
The Sun must have been reading these forums
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That article says 2 Hull players. Who's the other?
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| Quote ="Top Saint"That article says 2 Hull players. Who's the other?'"
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Turner'"
Interesting. Very interesting.
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| And it says the offer is substantially bigger than ours which is a substantial offer in itself. You must be really desperate to sign him.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"www.hullfc.com/personnel.aspx?pr=223849
Interesting, Manu says he is 28 in this video and he is wearing this years kit.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Turner'"
Hull don't rate him as they have already agreed terms with Joe Arundel for next year. Their centres will be Yeaman and Arundel.
Or maybe surplus to requirements, take your pick.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Hull don't rate him as they have already agreed terms with Joe Arundel for next year. Their centres will be Yeaman and Arundel.'"
I just love how you instantly and blindly jump to the most anti-Saints conclusion there is. So it's nothing to do with Jordan Turner wanting to move closer to home (Oldham) then? It's not to do with his Mrs getting a job in Liverpool? It's not that he got a better offer from Saints than Hull could come up with so Hull went after Arundell after Turner had told them he was leaving?
I made all of the above up by the way, but you don't know whats going on at Hull any more than any of us do. The Hull fans and Wigan trolls will of course claim he's joining us as they don't want him, but there are many other possible reasons.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I just love how you instantly and blindly jump to the most anti-Saints conclusion there is. So it's nothing to do with Jordan Turner wanting to move closer to home (Oldham) then? It's not to do with his Mrs getting a job in Liverpool? It's not that he got a better offer from Saints than Hull could come up with so Hull went after Arundell after Turner had told them he was leaving?
I made all of the above up by the way, but you don't know whats going on at Hull any more than any of us do. The Hull fans and Wigan trolls will of course claim he's joining us as they don't want him, but there are many other possible reasons.'"
You should know better than to bite, he's just an old fart who craves attention
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| Quote ="wirefox"You should know better than to bite, he's just an old fart who craves attention'"
The weird thing is that I probably know him. I know quite a lot of the old Wigan idiots in Billinge. Had real fun winding them up for the last 15 years after being subjected to a similar number of years being wound up. The price we pay for being a Billinger.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"That article says 2 Hull players. Who's the other?'"
Dave Parker in message board rumour printed as fact shocker.
In fact, he'll probably be reading this. So, Dave, do your own research for a change.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Hull [udon't rate him[/u as they have already agreed terms with Joe Arundel for next year. Their centres will be Yeaman and Arundel.
Or maybe [usurplus to requirements[/u, take your pick.'"
Funny how the fans of the club a player who they 'don't rate' and is 'surplus to requirements' gets a 20 page thread on their messaging board...
Quote Jordan continues to impress. I hope he's still around in 2013.'"
Quote I think the signing of arundel will see the back of turner. Shame as I'd rather keep turner'"
Quote I agree, personally there's nothing to Arundels game that makes him stand out as a better player than Turner.'"
Quote Not good news at all. Rated him as a centre from the off and he really is impressing this season.'"
I could go on finding endless quotes, but I have coursework to do....
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Hull don't rate him as they have already agreed terms with Joe Arundel for next year. Their centres will be Yeaman and Arundel.
Or maybe surplus to requirements, take your pick.'"
He's no Anthony Gelling that's for sure, but we'll have to make do.
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| When Manu signs, tp will be released, freeing quota spot for Aussie prop.
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