When was Wello found wanting last season exactly? And why should he find himself out of the side at all, never mind altogether? His only weakness is that he isn't Usain Bolt. Yet in spite of that he always seemed to be on the shoulder of the man with the ball last season, ready to take it forward.

Did you see the end of season review? Did you see the incredible catch he made against Hull KR at the Magic Weekend? I'd forgotten that one. Brilliant stuff.

So far as the captain is concerned, what Saints need is a leader. If Wello isn't a leader then he shouldn't be captain. He shouldn't be made captain just because he's been around the longest or because he's a local lad or even because everyone respects him. All those are great things and I think Wello's fab. But our captain should only be chosen based upon his leadership skill. Since we have lost Cunningham we need someone who can talk like Cunningham could talk, who can inspire, motivate, get them to dig themselves out of a hole, work harder, whatever is needed. Whoever is best at doing that should be our next captain, regardless of age, experience, ethnic origin or colour of boots.

don't mean to be a pain but that was more a very poor job in defence than a good attack from wello.

Captain should be Wellens next year

and then Roby

Graham for me then Roby as vice

What, you mean the one when he was tracking the ball that he caught while still running, colliding into an HKR player in the process, catching the ball even so and then passing it out to Graham, all in one fantastic move? That was a fantastic piece of skill. Sour grapes on your part I think!

nope i wouldn't go that far.

why would i have sour grapes.
you could say that i hadn't viewed it properly.

i saw it as the HKR player dealyed a stupid amount of time and expected the ball to land in his handds. Wellens just jumped into him before he could be bothered to move and then pass it quickly.

The try was mainly due to the HKR players procrastination.

My view

Wello had run half the length of the field before jumping for it and Hull's player could have done little else but stand where he stood since the ball was feet up in the air until that point. Wello simply outjumped him, but while on the move. It was a fantastic piece of courage and skill, and finished with a great try.

No way should Wellens be moved to LF.

I'll try and watch it again.
It was a while ago.
But i thought wello couldn't run if he was on fire?

Some say that.

do you?

No!

He isn't as fast as Billy Slater. That's what people seem to say, and I would agree with them. He isn't as fast as Billy Slater. But then, nor are most rugby league players but they don't seem to get the same stick!

But which fullbacks are Wellens faster than?

Who cares? I can name lots of full backs he's better than, regardless of how slow people think he is.

Good choice IMO.
If he can't fire the team up, then no-one can.

I have every confidence in him.

Who gives an elephant's left testicle.

He's a fantastic fullback; the best in Superleague.

There's three better at Wigan.

Bollox.

What position does he play?

Don't feed the troll. It's the off-season, he is extra bored

4 Grand Final wins, 2 WCC, 5 Challenge Cups, 4 League Leaders shields.

Man of Steel, Players’ Player of the Year, Rugby League Writers’ Player of the Year. 2 Lance Todds, and 1 Harry Sunderland.

Not a bad choice for captain, will do for me!



I'm sure there's a Wigan player who can match these meagre awards for such a mediocre player, Rogues? Maybe not

Nice one Saint!



Not that Rogues is troubled by such things as facts. (And I'm sure there was a Wiganer in 1983 or something who won a Challenge Cup medal who was a far, far better fullback than Wello!)

Now now rogues - can't you wait until the season starts. He may not be as fast as some but he makes up for it in brain power. There is no better full back in SL than Wello at the moment. Running fast is helpful but you need a rugby brain to achieve being a good one. In that dept. we have Wello.

And as well as all that, he's cute!

If you had a choice for 2011 of Paul Wellens, Sam Tomkins, Pat Richards or Amos Roberts, who would you chose?

I think Paul Wellens would be the most suitable candidate, although some posters on this thread seemed to have derailed it towards a fullback peeing contest. Although if they all want to come to Saints they could be part of the captaincy 'team'!