I'll support England RL no matter what in the 4 Nations, however, does anyone else have very little excitement over this tournament when the league leaders and grand final winners have no representatives in the squad?

It's not a good attitude, but part of me wouldn't be too disappointed if they got their a**e kicked for turning their back on our lads in the selection process.

I certainly want England to win but will be rooting for Mose to have a good game.

I'll be supporting England. There weren't that many of our players who had much of a shout. Roby would have been in there but pulled out, there really aren't any other automatic selections from our side. Makinson is probably very unlucky to not be in the squad and Walmsley and LMS would be in if I were picking it.

If we settle down and follow up this season's success like we should, then there will be a few lads (Walmsley, Amor, LMS and Makinson) that should be aiming to make a mockery of this England selection.

Agreed. No representatives will only benefit Saints next season. I've just always enjoyed seeing our lads in past Britain & England sides. I'll never forget Long, Wellens & Gilmour in particular turning the Aussies over in their own backyard years back.

LMS, Amor & Makinson have earned a place.

I hope they do well, but i can't help thinking the Saints lads would have been a handful for the opposition.

I agree they probably all deserve a place in the squad but they won't get passed players named allready?

Graham, 2 x Burgees and Hill are probably all better than LMS & Amour.

Only Makinson i'd say would push for a starting place.( can't argue with Hall & Charnley before him)

I'm not aggrieved by any of the omissions, but you would have thought one or two would have crept through.

I've usually little interest in the England team,however I will be cheering them on when they play Australia.

They are one of England's biggest rivals at any sport.

Having been there, there's nothing worse than a grinning gloating Aussie, smug after a victory over the 'Poms'.

i remember the first time we went over for the 1992 tour they were giving us some stick as we arrived at passport control in Sydney.

If you had your Wigin shirt on and were sucking your Uncle Joe's Mintballs whilst humming George Formby's song about your famous pier, I'm not in the least surprised

Roby would have been front and centre if he was fit. Don't you still follow Graham a bit? I know that's why I followed the Roosters for a while when Morley was there.

It doesn't concern me at all. Looking at the England squad and you could make a decent case for everyone who is in there, especially considering the injured players at hooker. We only had Roby in the World Cup squad don't forget and we had our best shot at glory in a long time.

Gotta say I'm glad Roby's getting a rest. I hope next season we use Lance to spell him too. We can only flog him for so long before he breaks for good

It surprised me when I saw the ENgland team that there were no Sts players in.
Obviously Roby would have been a first choice and there are some not eligible like Masoe and Manu.
Amor was down as Irish but I'd have picked him for England if available.

Makinson would have been a definite for me and I think Turner might turn out that way too.

I think it shows what a great team effort it was all season by Sts. Good for you guys.

The whole is greater than the sum of its parts

thats good because the sum of its parts will be lucky not to come 4th

I was talking about Saints in reference to the post before mine

That also was a freakin magic act! 2 trophys with no half backs? not possible!

i also think they should bring back GREAT BRITAN....thats more than just a tradition in our game..used to look forward to watching the great britan teams yonks ago...for me it's dull now!

Who would Amor get picked ahead of? Burgess x 2, Graham are way ahead, Hill looks a better individual to me as well. Makinson could be in the squad, but would he be first choice ahead of anyone else?

In any event this to me is one of the problems with international RL - far too much club parochialism in play rather than just supporting the national team. You don't see the same sort of 'if X from my club isn't playing I'm not interested' in either RU or football. In fact I've never heard an RU or football fan say anything like that.

Yep. Like I said I want England to win & do well. However, I'm not as excited about it because they've ignored the players from the best team in Super League.

For starters, I reckon Makinson is a better winger than Charnley & Burgess. There I said it. He's scored more try's for starters. He's a fantastic, athletic, finisher and a very good all round player.

Better looking too, don't forget that.

I'm with Saddened on this. I'm not gay but when Tommy is in full flight, the ball in the palm of his hand, reaching for the try line...he tempts me.

However, even my nutsack is prettier than Charnley.

You nuts probably more endowed as little Josh