Can we keep them to 50 points? Very tense game tonight currently being won by Lauaki and his mental deficiencies. What a shocking player.

Quite how Westwood remained on the field is beyond me. Even managed to remove a few teeth from Waterhouse.

Lauaki is the best second/third man tackler I've ever seen.

Looks like Westwood will miss our game next week and I expect Lauaki to miss the good Friday game as well.

we'll have some idea of our chances after Sunday. We could have a massive bounce, or more of the same

theyre going to have to fit a revolving door at red hall to deal with Luaki. Hes a liability and I expect a cumulative three games. Westwood might get one for his haymaker as well. Good game though really enjoyed the intensity in the first half but it (inevitably) dropped off in the second. Here's hoping our game on sunday is as tense.

Lauaki is terrible. He's like having two Gareth Hocks in the same pack. If Maguire and his 'alleyway' tactics were still around, Sky would need to start Wigan games after the watershed.

I can't wait to hear Rogues come on and tell us how brilliant the two of them have been this season.

I don't think we are capable of playing in such a tense tight game like tonight. We'd crumble with the pressure and leak points.

I totally agree.

As for Lauaki, the weakness of Silverdud amazes me. How can a referee give two on report calls to one player in one game? If he's had one on report call - an indication surely that he's done something at least possibly worth a ban - then to do another is surely a guarantee of a red card? Something needs to be done to give the refs some balls. They seem to have lost them somewhere.

It was a pacey match but chock full of errors.

It was a brilliant game. Did you see the period with about 10 to go where Wigan were smashing Wire on their own line, giving them no room with some superb defending. Two absolutely sensational 40 yard passes to the right later Warrington were breaking down the right wing. We're not in their league if they play like that against us. The best we can hope for is to make it as low key as it possibly can be and hope the errors mount for them. We can't go toe to toe with either of those sides without being KO'd.

That sounds like a Royce Simmons tactic.

We haven't got them ten mins spells where we smash teams anymore like we've had in the past.

And of course what nice decent lads they are when you meet ,and have a chat with them

they usually are nice lads across the board. At this level of RL theres no prizes for being the stupid hard man, you can just become a liability if the aggression isnt channelled correctly. Much rather have a player who grafts without the stupidity. luaki will know exactly how stupid he was, he was the difference tonight.

otherwise I think you are doing your side a disservice. Your pack need to adapt to the loss of FGB but you still have some classy players who can raise their game and you wont be far away come the playoffs

Well on the positive he was not sent off, so does us a favour.

I do hope he's not banned for Good Friday. He's probably our best chance.

did anyone think Wigan let us off the hook by going for the 2 all the time?

Yes.

i hope we dont go for the two for the rest of season...hate it, i know at times it is needed but im sick of having a team on the line there for the taking and jonny wilkinson runs on with a kicking tee.

we are st.helens we need to start playing like it again, quick tap or get that bugger into the corner and play some footy, the stick we gave the bradford dulls for it and now we are now just as bad!!

rant over

Two teams running hot. Thought Wigan presented a greater attacking threat. But youth is no match for experience in tight games.

Noticeable that Wigan & Warrington not only play with great pace, they [ipossess it[/i in spades. Which is why we stand virtually no chance in a shootout where defences on both sides are weak. For every try we score they would score three.

We either keep it tight or we keep it up near a cricket score.

You're joking aren't you - Warrington haven't played well since we beat Huddersfield.

reallly surprised at this? wire made a lot of errors in that game and if it wasn't for richards getting injured so he couldn't kick we would've lost. think we might have benny missing next week which is a huge loss. i will still back us to beat ya but think it will be another close game.

I'll concede Warrington's attacking play isn't as consistent as it might be, but defensively they were outstanding.

Gloom and doom Pete.
It aint over till the fat lady sings. Saints have it all to do and we can only get better.
Get the confidence factor right and everything will improve. It will take time and time we have plenty of.

I don't believe in unwinnable games. Yes we have lost Graham and yes we have been poor, but just as last years form into the GF was no cause for thinking we could do the same this year. There is no reason to think our form so far will stay the same for the rest of the season. Lets not forget Huddersfield are top and beat wigan and we ran them close.

More to the point, has Rogues not been on to point out 'Mickey Macs' horrendous distribution from dummy half?

As a Wire fan, this has to be the biggest compliment I've ever seen......We are struggling at the moment to get anywhere near our best, yet opposition fans think we are 'running hot'??

Couple this with the fact we are top and still scraping wins, and things bode well for the time we actually fire (that's if we ever do).

I'd agree that our defence is pretty up to its max, but attack-wise we are miles away from what we are capable of......I sometimes think Tony Smith is almost deliberately sending the side out with tactics which make lives diffiult for themselves - Some of our attacking moves still look like training moves that haven't quite been mastered in practice yet. The amount of dropped ball we concede is pretty scary at the moment.