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| In todays League Express he States "I know we are playing to International rules but I'm not sure what they are"
1) They weren't they were playing under Superleague rules, hence the free play.
2) Shouldn't HE know what rules they are playing under and if they had been the International ones then understand them?
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| Probably this is more related to the fact that Souths had 2 coaches on the field for most of the game, like they were coaching an under 8's game, which I believe is allowed under "international rules". (Quite why Souths felt like they needed an on field coach calling the plays for their team is a different matter).
So it appears some confusion from all quarters as to which rules the game was being played under.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"'"
Haha. Very good. I think someone over on the Wigan board was enquiring as to your health. Glad to see that you've recovered your sense of humour after yesterday.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Haha. Very good. I think someone over on the Wigan board was enquiring as to your health. Glad to see that you've recovered your sense of humour after yesterday.'"
Haha nice to know they're missing me!
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| Cunningham out!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"In todays League Express he States "I know we are playing to International rules but I'm not sure what they are"
1) They weren't they were playing under Superleague rules, hence the free play.
2) Shouldn't HE know what rules they are playing under and if they had been the International ones then understand them?'"
Desperate stuff this. Let me give you the ACTUAL quote that KC said in the press conference:
"At the start of the game, I wasn't sure what set of rules we were playing to - we were playing to international rules but they certainly weren't the ones I read".
What you have to understand is that journalists quite often 'twist' someones words and therefore misquote them. This is a classic example.
Now you said that we were playing under Superleague rules. Under these rules, there are very specific guidelines for non-players. The only person allowed on the field at any point in time is the physio. Everyone else is only allowed to enter the field of play when there is a stoppage in play or an interchange is taking place.
Last night every time South Sydney had the ball, a member of their coaching staff (disguised as a water carrier wearing a blue t-shirt) entered the field of play and remained there for all 5 tackles. This is NOT allowed under Superleague rules.
It seems to me that two sets of rules where being applied last night. Hence why Cunningham said "I wasn't sure what set of rules we were playing to".
I would gladly clarify anything else for you.
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| Quote ="saint87"Desperate stuff this. Let me give you the ACTUAL quote that KC said in the press conference:
"At the start of the game, I wasn't sure what set of rules we were playing to - we were playing to international rules but they certainly weren't the ones I read".
What you have to understand is that journalists quite often 'twist' someones words and therefore misquote them. This is a classic example.
Now you said that we were playing under Superleague rules. Under these rules, there are very specific guidelines for non-players. The only person allowed on the field at any point in time is the physio. Everyone else is only allowed to enter the field of play when there is a stoppage in play or an interchange is taking place.
Last night every time South Sydney had the ball, a member of their coaching staff (disguised as a water carrier wearing a blue t-shirt) entered the field of play and remained there for all 5 tackles. This is NOT allowed under Superleague rules.
It seems to me that two sets of rules where being applied last night. Hence why Cunningham said "I wasn't sure what set of rules we were playing to".
I would gladly clarify anything else for you.
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Thats Rogues owned
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| Alfie langer was constantly on the field for Brisbane too.
I must say there's nothing annoys me more than coaches standing on the pitch during the game. Frankly it's a total p*ss take, there is no justification.
Heres hoping it's one little australianism we won't be embracing here at home.
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| Doesn't matter what rules we played or If they had matt king running on every two mins, that's no excuse to concede 39 points and not scoring a single point.
No excuses, they are a team that is another level to what saints are. It's that simple really.
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| Quote ="saint87"Desperate stuff this. Let me give you the ACTUAL quote that KC said in the press conference:
"At the start of the game, I wasn't sure what set of rules we were playing to - we were playing to international rules but they certainly weren't the ones I read".
What you have to understand is that journalists quite often 'twist' someones words and therefore misquote them. This is a classic example.
Now you said that we were playing under Superleague rules. Under these rules, there are very specific guidelines for non-players. The only person allowed on the field at any point in time is the physio. Everyone else is only allowed to enter the field of play when there is a stoppage in play or an interchange is taking place.
Last night every time South Sydney had the ball, a member of their coaching staff (disguised as a water carrier wearing a blue t-shirt) entered the field of play and remained there for all 5 tackles. This is NOT allowed under Superleague rules.
It seems to me that two sets of rules where being applied last night. Hence why Cunningham said "I wasn't sure what set of rules we were playing to".
I would gladly clarify anything else for you.
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My quote was directly from a published source.
Yours?
Why didn't he qualify which rules he thought were not being adhered to in the press conference?
Why didn't he or one of his staff approach the match commissionaire at some stage (half time) to complain of what he thought was wrong.
The match was played under Superleague rules and if Souths were blatantly flaunting them then someone should have brought it to the match officials notice.
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Please clarify
If they were playing under International rules as Cunningham suggested
1) What are the International rules regarding water carrier and physio?
2) Why were the allowing the free play?
3) Were the rules different for both teams?
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| Quote ="saint87"
Last night every time South Sydney had the ball, a member of their coaching staff (disguised as a water carrier wearing a blue t-shirt) entered the field of play and remained there for all 5 tackles. This is NOT allowed under Superleague rules.
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The guy in blue and a fat bloke in orange spent most of the game directing play and at one point the bloke in orange was waiving at the ref to reset the tackle count.
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| Quite ironic that a Wigan fan come on here and starts nit picking at Cunningham's comments, particularly considering the nonsense Wane comes out with that even embarrasses Wigan fans!
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| Rogues is just angry because the Pies' flukey luck is no longer sufficient to win big games.
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| Quote ="St pete"Doesn't matter what rules we played or If they had matt king running on every two mins, that's no excuse to concede 39 points and not scoring a single point.
Correct.
No excuses, they are a team that is another level to what saints are. It's that simple really.'"
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| The extra time and Golden Point isn't in Super League rules.
It's in the NRL rules.
Also I think it's in the International Rules too. In 2006 Tri Nations, the Final between Aus and NZ went to extra time and I think Golden Point.
An absolute mish mash really which needs sorting.
A sport as small as ours having three sets of rules is nonsense.
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| The problem being is that the England RL allow the Aussie RL to bully them.
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| Coaching on the field isn't allowed in the NRL either. IIRC Langer has been ordered off the field in the past. I suspect its just down to the fact that it's a pre-season game.
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| Over the years I have seen All team using staff on the pitch to coach, even Saints, but I don't think Sunday night that was the difference between a win or Loss, not sure any of the Sydney guys needed much coaching, agree it is well past time we all played under the same rules, doubt it though as long as NRL have the power they do and you have to admit they are well ahead of us in all areas.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"The extra time and Golden Point isn't in Super League rules.
It's in the NRL rules.
Also I think it's in the International Rules too. In 2006 Tri Nations, the Final between Aus and NZ went to extra time and I think Golden Point.
An absolute mish mash really which needs sorting.
A sport as small as ours having three sets of rules is nonsense.'"
what happens if the grand final finishes as a draw after 80 mins?
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| Quote ="Pieman"what happens if the grand final finishes as a draw after 80 mins?'"
Or one of the rounds leading up to it.
The Huddersfield v Saints Cup game last year went to Golden point.
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| Quote ="Pieman"what happens if the grand final finishes as a draw after 80 mins?'"
Same with the play offs. Same with the Challenge Cup.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Same with the play offs. Same with the Challenge Cup.'"
which is?
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| Quote ="Pieman"which is?'"
What happened at Wigan - Brisbane !!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Top Saint"What happened at Wigan - Brisbane !!!!!!!!!'"
ah so golden point is a super league rule aswell?
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