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| well played lads. great result.
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| Fantastic defence today and Huddersfield only managed points from a bounce of the ball. I thought our attack at times looked a bit ordinary but with the conditions and yet another new half back partnership it was always going to happen.
I think our bench incredibly considering how outweighed they were by the Huddersfield bench, also credit to Dixon for a decent game thrown in at Loose Forward in the absence of TP. Clough and Ashurst both had good games driving forward off the bench and Scott Moore was his usual aggressive self.
Big games from both Roby and Graham in the metres and LMS was fantastic this week, really stood up. Credit to Armstrong as well for coming in and putting in the effort, some good runs from him.
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| I thought the whole pack did very well. Roby and lms was very good but I thought jammer was awesome!
Moore came on and put himself about and got thru a ton of work. Was great to see clough back and playing well for only his 2nd game back.
I still think our attack isn't up to scratch.
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| Fantastic defense tonight. Had it not been for Foster being a bit slow to react we would have nilled them, which given the conditions and the players out would have been a great achievement.
Armstrong, Shenton, Soliola, Pryce, Roby, LMS, Jammer and Wilkin all deserve special mentions but it would take too long.
Still a lot to work on in attack.
I thought Phil had a poor game tonight. He got loads of basic calls wrong and wasted a load of time referring everything we did, yet when they kicked through twice and forced a drop out and were blatantly offside he didn't need it. He also annoyed me when he sees enough to put Shirley on report but doesn't see enough to give a penalty against him for it. Also when Graham was headbutted by Robinson when he went for the big hit and messed it up, alright it wasn't malicious, but the point of contact is the head, it's got to be a penalty. And when he sin binned one of our players for questioning a decision he annoyed me again. They knock on from the first tackle after it and are also penalised for disent, yet he stays on?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
He also annoyed me when he sees enough to put Shirley on report but doesn't see enough to give a penalty against him for it.'"
He didnt see it, was the TJ call
Quote ="Saddened!" Also when Graham was headbutted by Robinson when he went for the big hit and messed it up, alright it wasn't malicious, but the point of contact is the head, it's got to be a penalty.'"
Was it hell a headbutt
Quote ="Saddened!"And when he sin binned one of our players for questioning a decision he annoyed me again. They knock on from the first tackle after it and are also penalised for disent, yet he stays on?'"
Didnt sin bin him for questioning the decision, was for kicking the ball away a 2nd time
Your 0/3 mate
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| Quote ="Gahan"He didnt see it, was the TJ call
Was it hell a headbutt
Didnt sin bin him for questioning the decision, was for kicking the ball away a 2nd time
Your 0/3 mate
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1 - Rubbish. If the touch judge gives a call, it's still a penalty.
2 - Fair enough, didn't notice that
3 - I'm not saying he means to headbutt him but he has a swing at him and the first contact is head on head.
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| 1. He didnt see it hence it went on report, it aint rocket science.
2. Are you saying he led with a swinging head?
3. Glad we cleared one of the three up your struggling with
Personally thought it was an awful game, way too much spilled ball, questions marks over 2 of the tries, thought Leons was ok though
Wouldnt have given ours neither, didnt think it was downward pressure
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| Quote ="Gahan"1. He didnt see it hence it went on report, it aint rocket science.
2. Are you saying he led with a swinging head?
3. Glad we cleared one of the three up your struggling with
Personally thought it was an awful game, way too much spilled ball, questions marks over 2 of the tries, thought Leons was ok though
Wouldnt have given ours neither, didnt think it was downward pressure'"
No, of course I'm not saying he swung his head at him I'm saying he goes for a big hit, but lines it up wrong and goes too high and they end up clashing heads. I'm basing all this on a live viewing, I'll review it in more detail later.
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| First of all well done, thought Saints' defence tonight was outstanding and they took their chances well which was the difference. They showed good aggression in defence, controlled the ruck in attack and defence and just completely outplayed us.
Was a frustrating night watching us turn the ball over so much though.
Quote ="Saddened!"1 - Rubbish. If the touch judge gives a call, it's still a penalty. '"
The touch judge only saw what we saw by watching the big screen - he didn't call it at the time because he didn't see it at the time, plus having watched it back Eorl has nothing to answer for. His arm is flat against his ribs as he goes into the tackle. It was just a very hard impact which McCarthy-Scarsbrook came off worse.
Quote ="Saddened!"3 - I'm not saying he means to headbutt him but he has a swing at him and the first contact is head on head.'"
It's a clash of heads, get over it - the players did.
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| We seam to have put an emphasis on defence in recent weeks and maybe that's draining our attack somewhat at the moment. I still think we are getting better as theyear goes on. I said we would make 3rd possibly 2nd and I still think it's all on. Even better this was our toughest game of the run in.
Now we need to get everyone we need fit. I know it will sound disrepectful to the last 3 sides. But given results and the league table the last 3 games should be achievable with or without Graham, Roby etc.
If they need time to get back to full strength now is the time to rotate. Clough looked better this week than last. LMS went well for us tonight even before the try. Every single man was solid defensively. Bit of a brain fart from Foster, but then he took one across the line earlier that he could have left. ( it happens and it was a brough special). With the CC final as a rest weekend we should be aiming for a full team bar Perry come the playoffs.
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| Quote ="Ginger_Giant"It's a clash of heads, get over it - the players did.'"
Get over it? I'm only suggesting we could have got a penalty for it.
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| you were fantastic tonight. it was a hard purist game tonight. hudds were well up for it and have a quality side especially in
the forwards. I've said on record on previous posts that i genuinely believe you have the most solidist pack when everyones fit.
Having said that, tonight you had Pulutua, Perry ( out for season) and flannery out and still for me controlled the forwards with
a bit of help from roby who's been outstanding. when you played us, our forwards found it difficult to make any yards and
in previous games we hadn't had any problems tho wigan in the semi proved very tricky- we massively missed morley in that
one as he takes no prisoners v wigan. with prcye back and a possible return of eastmond, you could possibly be the second team
to win sl from 3rd which would be a bit ironic considering the amount of times you've been top and lost out to leeds.
On a different thing I'd like to mention how respectful your fans were when o'donnell went off with that knee injury. Everyone
was clapping including a good number who stood up to clap him off. This was the same at the wire game when your fans
were again totally respectful to paul derbyshire's passing. There's always a bit of tension when we play you guys but there
wasn't one saints fan in the whole of the west stand end that I could see giving anything other than respect to paul.
best sport and the best fans.
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| I was impressed by the pack, even dixon and ashurst looked solid and they have not had as good a year this year as last.
To be fair when I saw Puletua was out along with flannery, our bench was looking a little light. It looked positive for huddersfield.
(ROYCE: once again 3 subs) eh????????
I understand the back on the bench but did he even make the field tonight. He could have had a spell at loose or 2nd row surely. Even Gardner has had a slot in the 2nd row this year.
Hope we'll get a good pack and bench for the playoffs.
Puletua/LMS/Graham/Clough/Roby/Wilkin/Soliola/Flannery/Moore
Any chance of Perry making a miracle return.
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| worthy victory from a side suffering from injuries
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| I thought it was a dour game to be honest. Yes our defense was very good, and that is pleasing, as our goalline defense especially has been suspect this year. Thought we took our tries well - haven't watched the replay yet, but from watching the big screen at the game, they all looked OK.
Hudds were very poor in attack though - only McGilvary looked dangerous to me. I also couldn't believe the number of times that Danny Brough took the ball in like a forward! Bizarre.
Saints attack - still too many stupid, simple errors that in big games, will cost us. Around the ruck, we look OK, and our pack has been fantastic - we still look a bit flat when we go out wide. Not many breaks tonight - I thought we missed Johnny Lomax in that regard, as he has been one of our more creative players this season.
ATEOTD, the result was the main thing tonight - with no disrespect to KR, Salford and Quins, tonight should have sealed 3rd for us (especially with Cats losing), and with a bit of luck, we could pip 2nd. Considering the season we have had with injuries, 3rd is a real success. The next 3 games, hopefully our attack will come together, and we could really trouble Wigan and Wire in the playoffs.
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| clough looks like the next cunningham in terms of stature and fieryness. agree as well that ashurst and dixon especially were
very solid. foster for his age looks like a quality wing in the making aside from his kicking.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"clough looks like the next cunningham in terms of stature and fieryness. agree as well that ashurst and dixon especially were
very solid. foster for his age looks like a quality wing in the making aside from his kicking.'"
Yeh I am a foster fan, but have to admit, I'd like to see a little more on his kick returns tonight. He seamed to take a few seconds before deciding to run. Also had a brain fart for the Hudds try, but hey he's been pretty good all year. I think Makinson has no worries that his position is under threat. Armstrong was well, not Makinson.
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| 2 poor sides contested a fairly poor game i thought.we were the better side for 20 minutes but didn't really look like doing anything.
we went missing in defence for a couple of tries,we created hardly anything, saints defence was very good, and you were pretty clinical in attack which showed on the scoreboard.
bentham was frustrating lets just say.
all in all no complaints from me,right result in the end.
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| totally disagree. if you look at the semi pies and saints. it was similar in many respects in terms of no scoring but quality forward play, and
it was roby and prcye who seemed to unlock your defence. for an fl fan- it was a hard quality game where both sides played to the conditions.
the aim is to win and both sides played a game most suitable to winning in the wet conditions and a game suitable to the both sides who
are strong in the forwards.
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| DIcons best game for saints.
The attack still ain't good enough.
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| Quote ="St pete"DIcons best game for saints.
The attack still ain't good enough.'"
it was last night
funny how i was saying to my brother and mates after about 20 minutes when we looked to have been the dominant team, how saints always seem to nick a try from nothing,sure enough, 2 minutes later up popped leon to score his obligatory try against us.
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| is it just me or is Scott Moore just not good enough for a team like Saints ?
I just can't get exited about his contribution to the team...
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| Quote ="sanjunien"is it just me or is Scott Moore just not good enough for a team like Saints ?
I just can't get exited about his contribution to the team...'"
I like his enthusiasm and aggression, but he always does something stupid e.g. miss a tackle, give a penalty away or drop the ball.
He's a frustrating player that's for sure, but the talent is there.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"is it just me or is Scott Moore just not good enough for a team like Saints ?
I just can't get exited about his contribution to the team...'"
He wasn't last season. This season however, he has been much improved, and is probably our only impact player from the bench these days, thanks to his much needed aggression.
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| I thought Scott Moore was good last night, apart from 1 stupid pass and a stupid high tackle. He got into Crabtree every single time he got the ball! And he hit him hard too.
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