In terms of attendance are we just picking out this season or are we going to go on the past don't know how many years? Because Saints have had bigger average attendances than Hull, especially since 96. Happy to be corrected on that.

In the current squad, you have Lomax, Makinson, Percival, Swift, Roby, Richards, Savelio, Thompson, Greenwood, Fleming, Knowles with the likes of Bailey, Wellington, Davies, Ashworth also making appearances this season...they all came through the youth development. There is plenty of talent playing elsewhere in SL and the NRL who came through our youth system. Our u-19's have just won the Grand Final and gone through the regular season unbeaten.

'Maybe' Wigan as you put it, have also produced a conveyor belt of continuous talent.

Jesus christ these warrington fans are taking a good hiding on here. Keep it going.

I commented earlier in this thread that it was bizarre now it's surreal . I can just about understand wires gloating and glossing over the inconsistencies in last week's match. After all they won and made the GF.

Now they have lost, and to be totally honest only looked like managing tries through barge overs or on the back of penalties, and they are still here.

On the basis of their last two "big" games they are at the stage were their attack really does make Saints look like the entertainers in comparison.

I suspect the wire board must be a grim place at the moment if you want to take refuge here - tried the Wigan board yet?

Just to add, our greatest rivals won on Saturday, yet not one as come on here gloating and rubbing our noses in it. Credit to them.

This massive club that couldn't make the 8's

This massive club that couldn't make the 8's. Also lost out to Saints for Barbs and Bentley