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Decided to sleep it off before coming on here to calm down a bit!
Starting with the coach, he obviously got last night's team selection horribly wrong. He seems hell bent on his Turner at 6 experiment working, when it clearly isn't. McManus cannot be happy after spending so much money on Burns and Fages and they're not getting a game at 6 because of Turner. Playing Knowles at 9 was completely bizzare. I felt sorry for the lad. He wasn't great but it wasn't his fault. A young back rower with no experience put into the team in one of the most important positions, unbelievable. Charnock hasn't looked amazing but he's done a steady job at 9 when called upon and tonight was a perfect time to get him more game time.
Ridiculous team selection aside, KC cannot take all the blame for last night. The minimum paying fans want, or rightly demand should I say, when they go to the game is the right attitude and effort. Even with KC's astounding 17, you line up both 17's and tell me we shouldn't be winning that game. If the players turn up with the right attitude we win last night for me. They have badly let the fans down who turned up and, Walmsley aside, have produced one of the worst performances in recent St.Helens history. Many will blame Owens but I almost felt sorry for him last night. The lad had a shocker and hopefully he can forget about it soon enough. He's not great but 3rd choice fullbacks rarely are.
Where does the team go from here? KC said he isn't afraid to wield the axe but we all know by now that he is. You cant blame Masoe or Travis Burns for last night. Whatever you think of Burns, he is a fighter and the type of character we needed last night. His treatment of Greenwood is bizzare. Granted he went backwards last year towards the end but Greg Richards has been on a consistent downwards spiral since the 2014 Grand Final.
With it looking like no Roby or Percival for Roosters and then a trip to KR after that, I can see a big Eamon McManus motivating statement (again) and a Jon Wilkin interview making bold statements in the near future.
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| Quote ="LucaUtd1"Reading through most Saints fans post it seems we only won because of how poorly Saints played?? Sounds very arrogant to me. We have the best coach in SL we have the best fitness coach and a very good young coach in Watson. We have also built a TEAM, we don't have the massive names but we have some players who will have big names come the end of this season, Rob Lui and Dobson would walk into the Saints team, as would Evalds, Murdoch-Masila, we have some very good players and I think a lot of people are underestimating this current squad. We also had 3 important players missing last night in Sau Vidot and Hauraki. We definitely need to kick on from last night but I can only see this squad getting better as the 9 new recruits all bed in. We smashed Wigan in a pre season friendly and a lot of people were arrogant about that mentioning how it wasn't a full strength wigan side, hopefully people will carry on underestimating us all season.'"
Don't jump the gun mate, you got smashed by a Hull FC side who were also fielding 6 new signings the week before. Best fitness coach? The FC forwards were leaving yours on the floor time and time again. |
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[iSpeaking as a Salford fan ignore that pillock masturbating because we won a game for once. Yes Saints were poor Salford played well and it wasn't a dazzling world class display either by us there's still more to come from us. Now i haven't come on here to gloat but i think that Saint's recruitment this year is nothing short of abysmal. Once i heard that you signed Theo Fages and Jack Owens i knew straight away you're on the demise. Having watched Theo come through the ranks at Salford i have always stated he was over-rated. I know Fages wasn't to blame last night but the more he plays halfback the poorer Saints will become. His kicking game is poor, he bounces off tackles his reading of the game is evasive, he lacks creativity for a half, if the Frog is going to make it, it'll be at Nine it won't be halfback. Lama Tasi for us was marvellous and i think he'll come good in time. Realistically Burns should be way ahead of Fages in the pecking order. I just hope next time we play Saints Fages is playing.[/i
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If he bounces of tackles then at least he is attempting them. Last night Walsh was running away from tackles.
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| Quote ="LucaUtd1"Reading through most Saints fans post it seems we only won because of how poorly Saints played?? Sounds very arrogant to me. We have the best coach in SL we have the best fitness coach and a very good young coach in Watson. We have also built a TEAM, we don't have the massive names but we have some players who will have big names come the end of this season, Rob Lui and Dobson would walk into the Saints team, as would Evalds, Murdoch-Masila, we have some very good players and I think a lot of people are underestimating this current squad. We also had 3 important players missing last night in Sau Vidot and Hauraki. We definitely need to kick on from last night but I can only see this squad getting better as the 9 new recruits all bed in. We smashed Wigan in a pre season friendly and a lot of people were arrogant about that mentioning how it wasn't a full strength wigan side, hopefully people will carry on underestimating us all season.'"
Well said. Your players were far better than ours last night. They looked bigger, stronger, faster and far more committed. |
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iSpeaking as a Salford fan ignore that pillock masturbating because we won a game for once. Yes Saints were poor Salford played well and it wasn't a dazzling world class display either by us there's still more to come from us. Now i haven't come on here to gloat but i think that Saint's recruitment this year is nothing short of abysmal. Once i heard that you signed Theo Fages and Jack Owens i knew straight away you're on the demise. Having watched Theo come through the ranks at Salford i have always stated he was over-rated. I know Fages wasn't to blame last night but the more he plays halfback the poorer Saints will become. His kicking game is poor, he bounces off tackles his reading of the game is evasive, he lacks creativity for a half, if the Frog is going to make it, it'll be at Nine it won't be halfback. Lama Tasi for us was marvellous and i think he'll come good in time. Realistically Burns should be way ahead of Fages in the pecking order. I just hope next time we play Saints Fages is playing.[/i'"
Ignore that pillock? Really why because I said sheens is the best coach in the league? Please name me a better one? We also do have by far the best conditioning coach as well and Watson is a good young coach?? And if that wasn't dazzling I think you are being a bit unrealistic to say more to come, I very much doubt we will beat another top club like saints by such a score line In a long long time let alone this season you sound like the pillock mate |
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