There may have been an exaggeration by one poster, but being able to control posession and play without giving away penalties are important aspects of the game for a forward pack - penalties and errors can be forced, remember. In the 2nd half we lost this composure (the wilkin high shot on westwood springs to mind) as we lost control of the game.

We have a good pack. Half our backs are good players, but are suffering in our set up.

Michael Shenton has been bemoaned as a poor signing, but his glimpses of form after he announced his return to Cas showed what ability he had. God forbid Wigan had got him instead of us becuase, with his ability to run onto a ball in his channel combined with their moves from deep, he'd have ripped it up over the last couple of years.

i agree with everything you have said.... and nowhere has anyone said you have a bad pack.

Can't see him coming back any time soon.

Imortance of wingers qualities these days seem to go in the following order -
1) Safety with kicks
2) bring the ball out of your own half
3) simple finishing
4) advanced finishing

Foster lost point 1 and never really had 2 and 4.
If he can get his safe hands back,then he's worth having for his goal kicking, but you can't take to the field with makinson and Foster as your wingers. They're collectively too small and can't get us a roll on at the beginning of the set.

What we've done with Shenton is just yet another painful demonstration of the terrible waste of talent our team's been guilty of for 4 years now...

I don't think makinson is the man for fullback, I question his positional play in attack and also in defence.

Lance Hohaia IMO is the man for the job.