Quote ="wertyuio"Carrer stats do matter....he is beaten to a high kick rarely and for that to result in a try rarely still. Had he have done that in 2004 (where it would have been equally as rare perhaps), would that have signalled his departure?'"
No it wouldn't, but it didn't as often and that is the point.
Quote Agree that he is doesn't do the good things as much as he used to (who does) but not sure I agree that these are diminishing noticeably or significantly. Nor do I subscribe to statements likes "he used to consistently beat the first man now its a surprise". He did do it more frequently than now but not sure that its a considerable reduction. Also think game has changed considerably in the last ten years to contribute to this (not meant as an excuse). He is gettin older but still believe he brings plenty as well as instilling confidence in rest of team.'"
The game hasn't changed that much in regard to kick returns, he does bring plenty that's why he's still there, but there comes a point in every career when the cons start to outweigh the pros and Wellens is getting past tipping point for me.
Quote Without getting into the merits of individual players, would rather still have Wellens as fullback that someone like Tomkins, despite Tomkins's attacking prowess.'"
We'd be top of the league with Tomkins at fullback IMO. He contributes to the points scored column far, far more than he does the points against.
