I generally find your posts quite interesting and well balanced (for a wiganer). However your initial reply could only have been made to derail the topic. Trying to unnecessarily belittle the achievements of two very good players.

Edwards was a long way from being a genius. He was a player with average skills, but with a determination and winners mentality that helped him eek out his full potential. He was also helped by playing in a dominant Wigan team that was full of full time professionals cherry picked from around the league, playing against teams with part time players.

Getting back to the original thread!!

Gilly for me has been a unsung hero at Saints- the amount of head shots he has received in his time is unbelievable but he tackles like a trojan every time.

Long is a rugby league legend- love him or hate him or sometimes both!! When he is great hes a saints legend but whenever he does something silly its because he's a Wiganer! Plus he has has the most hair styles in rugby - you never know how its going to be when he runs out. Favourite moment is the drop goal in grand final.

Will miss them both and hope everyone gives them a great send off (cant myself unfotunatley!) so add an extra round of applause from me!

Agree 100% about Gilly. Unsung hero, mr reliable.

As for longy he has been simply superb for us over the year, but i think that the club have done the right thing in letting him go as his performances IMO, are slipping.

As for memories of longy the man of the match performance in the challenge cup final stands out. As does nicking st bernards head and running back to the recieve the kick off!

The goons will always tell you that Leeds were the same during the glory years



ok 2 horse race then

Don't feed the troll people.


Two brilliant players, I still think it was the wrong decision to let Gilly go but he'll do an excellent job for Huddersfield I'm sure. As for Long, well what can you say, he has won more huge games for us than anyone. Easily the best British scrum half of the Super league era.

The signing of both of these players raised a few eyebrows, how they proved the doubters wrong.

After tonight he cemented his place in St Helens folklore, and that will do for me.

Thanks for the memories Sean.