because as we all know, rugby didn't exist before super league.

leeds missed/fell off tackles, spilled ball, gave away daft pens and had the likes of webb still working off a bit of rust. in a nut shell we wernt by any means near our best and we lost by 8 to a saints team who played their best so far this season and showed what a good team they are, they will get better when meli and pelatua(sp) come back but so will leeds when ali buderus and kirke are back. for leeds to beat saints we have to play well and we simply didnt on friday

we all know as fans previous success means very little when your getting beat in major finals

Having a database back to the 19th century I challenge your figures....PROVE IT

Ever you ever heard of Google?

Just type in Leeds Rhinos, which will take you to the website, and then look at history.

Seriously, anyone who thought that Leeds had only won 21 trophies in their history is seriously clueless.

Your silly rant needs no proving as wrong. Anybody who knows about the game would put it down in an instant.

and that 55 doesnt even include the festive challenge or lazenby cup

Your beloved database clearly means t