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| Here we have it, although we knew they were not all like the others, but a Hull fan with common sense and an understanding on the game.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Can't be bothered to read through all the petty one-upmanship, but it's disturbing how many people are handbag grabbing in RL right now. I'm a Hull Fan, but I didn't break down in tears when your lot sang "Down with your trawlers". I've never cared when a player on the floor has met chants of "I hope he's ****ing dead". I laugh when you sing "Sing when you're fishing..."
I don't agree with racist chanting, but anything else is fair game to me. I know I'm in a minority in the modern World, but I wouldn't change any of the South Stands chants. I despise all the brass band nonsense much more than any Hull abuse I hear.
Regarding Zak, the biggest complainer from our board regularly uses much more homophobic terms in the pub than Zak has done on the field. It's ridiculous knee jerk reaction from everyone outside of the Leeds club. Even if Zak DID say something intentionally homophobic (which I don't believe he did), it's absolutely nothing compared to some on field actions of many players. It's rank hypocrisy across the board, mostly from people that have never defended LGBT rights in prior, much more serious situations.
Same with Todd Carney. So he vexed into his own gob?!?! Who did this hurt exactly? And yet there's all these moral crusaders jumping out of the woodwork condemning Catalans for signing who should/could be the best player in the comp next season.'"
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| Quote ="Raggytash"
Regarding Zak, the biggest complainer from our board regularly uses much more homophobic terms in the pub than Zak has done on the field. '"
I think most of us knew he wasn't a Peter Tatchell but thanks for confirming it!
Classy though to use it as a means to attack a player.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Is Jeff having a conversation with himself?'"
I knew his standards had slipped over the year but he's reached desperation levels now when he's had to resort to going over to the Hull board to chum up with them, of all people, about the lack of class in some RL supporters.
He might as well go the whole hog as the barrel has been fully scraped and start praising the 'enthusiasm' of Widnes fans at the CC Semi.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Here we have it, although we knew they were not all like the others, but a Hull fan with common sense and an understanding on the game.'"
Ar[is[/ieholes, he's a fawning idiot
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"TBF though I don't think the media did really make a big song and dance about it. They inquired about it and reported it of course but they also reported Hardaker's view the other day when he talked about how the RFL was dragging it's heels and the effect it was having on his family.
That was the one thing I think he got wrong in the aftermath when he made a comment about journalists being a waste of breathe. He used them himself to tell his side of the story so he was ok with that particular participation. When you compare it to the field day journalists had over some of the footballing incidents with the likes of John Terry, Luis Suarez, Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney then they didn't do anything like that. Even on that BackChat episode you had Stevo, Danny Lockwood and Chris Irvine all saying it seems to be a nonsense and I've not seen any sensationalising of it except from opposition fans on social media.'"
Journalists don't simply report news, they try & create news. That is what they did with this instance. Hope this helps.
Hardaker did nothing more than call Mark Flanagan a plucking flick, but look at what it became thanks to journalists, the morons at the RFL & the social media lynch mob.
Zak Hardaker has had to face all that having done absolutely nothing wrong. How is that in any way right? The search for a victim certainly found one.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Ar[is[/ieholes, he's a fawning idiot'"
Is Mark Flanagan a fawning prick too? He has no problem with Hardaker calling him a plucking flick.
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| I wonder how all these self righteous idiots now feel on the Andrew Gale issue?
Not a game that gives heat of the moment emotions. Just a simple reaction to another, and now terming a word the cricket board use themselves into a racist comment.
Of course this was direct at someone who applies to that, so in those terms worse than the Hardaker one. But shows how ridiculous governing bodies have become, with this politically correct nonsense.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I wonder how all these self righteous idiots now feel on the Andrew Gale issue?
Not a game that gives heat of the moment emotions. Just a simple reaction to another, and now terming a word the cricket board use themselves into a racist comment.
Of course this was direct at someone who applies to that, so in those terms worse than the Hardaker one. But shows how ridiculous governing bodies have become, with this politically correct nonsense.'"
Wasn't aware of this indecent but just read up on it... sounds like what we used to call "banter". How calling someone a "Kolpack f*cker" can be construed as racist escapes me.
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| Cue comments from Kolpak Stiff and Homer Phobe, and possible Chris Chan
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I wonder how all these self righteous idiots now feel on the Andrew Gale issue?
Not a game that gives heat of the moment emotions. Just a simple reaction to another, and now terming a word the cricket board use themselves into a racist comment.
Of course this was direct at someone who applies to that, so in those terms worse than the Hardaker one. But shows how ridiculous governing bodies have become, with this politically correct nonsense.'"
I find the relative amounts of coverage equally bizarre. Andrew Gale was a name I had never heard of before this morning. And I watch all the news & sports bulletins across many channels.
Is Leeds CF&A a breeding ground for bad boys?
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| Quote ="LeagueDweeb"Andrew Gale was a name I had never heard of before this morning. And I watch all the news & sports bulletins across many channels.'"
Do you watch them on mute? He just captained Yorkshire to the County Championship!
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| Quote ="Wheels"Do you watch them on mute? He just captained Yorkshire to the County Championship!'"
Cricket is played in long pants and as such does not qualify as a bona fide sport
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| Quote ="William Eve"Hardaker should have been sacked by the club in June after being found guilty of homophobic abuse directed at a referee. That was MjM's opinion and it's an opinion I happen to agree with. So much for being given second chances and to grow up... oh well... he's now on his third, though some might argue it's now his fourth!
Loved this quote of yours concerning Hardaker and his exit from the England camp during the RLWC last season.....
[i"He [Hardaker was the only Leeds player not sent home from the [England squad. He left, as already pointed out, the rest were sent home at the end" [/i
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Why have you stopped adding a no really?
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Wasn't aware of this indecent but just read up on it... sounds like what we used to call "banter". How calling someone a "Kolpack f*cker" can be construed as racist escapes me.'"
I think part of the issue was the preceding phrase:
Prince told gale "f**k off back to cover point"
Gale replied: "Well you can f*** off back to your own country you Kolpak f*****.”
All the same its clearly a reference to the fact that Prince shouldn't be allowed to play for lancs as they already have a foreign player and he only gets in (taking a place from a young English kid) due to being a kolpak.
Bloody stupid case for the ECB to have pushed on with...they're doing a good job of making the RFL look good
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| What's a kolpak, am I missing something
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Quote ="rollin thunder"What's a kolpak, am I missing something'"
A foreign player who isn't allowed to be counted as a foreign player due to a court ruling...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolpak_ruling
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A foreign player who isn't allowed to be counted as a foreign player due to a court ruling...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolpak_ruling
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So why is that offensive.
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So why is that offensive.
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| Calling someone a Kolpack when they are is very similar to calling someone gay when they are.
Maybe get another ten more pages out of this thread now.
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| I do hope the ICC will be banning any Australian cricketers who refer to any English cricketers as Pommy's then.
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| If someone called James Child a bent barstweward in realtion to his performances would it be homophobic?
Hopefully young Hardaker can now focus on his game instead of the endless speculation and coverage of him callling Mark Flanagan a plucking flick.
Beware the lip readers.
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| Is this still going? Jeez
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Is this still going? Jeez'"
We thought we'd keep it going in anticipation of the next faux outraged lip-reading moron to spot something that Hardaker didn't say. It saves time trying to find this thread in a couple of weeks when the Sky cameras catch young Zak mouthing "fancy a beer" to Josh Charnley.
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| I'd have thought you'd have got bored with the self-pity and "everyone is out to get Leeds" now
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| Quote ="100% Wire"I'd have thought you'd have got bored with the self-pity and "everyone is out to get Leeds" now
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Nope. Just getting our petition ready to ensure Micky Higham is now brought to justice over his disgraceful language to Thaler today.
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