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| Would have thought William would have gone back into hiding again, after his embarrassment of poor efforts on this thread.
Lucky us eh.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Would have thought William would have gone back into hiding again, after his embarrassment of poor efforts on this thread.
Lucky us eh.'"
Hardaker should have been sacked by the club in June after being found guilty of homophobic abuse directed at a referee. That was MjM's opinion and it's an opinion I happen to agree with. So much for being given second chances and to grow up... oh well... he's now on his third, though some might argue it's now his fourth!
Loved this quote of yours concerning Hardaker and his exit from the England camp during the RLWC last season.....
[i"He [Hardaker was the only Leeds player not sent home from the [England squad. He left, as already pointed out, the rest were sent home at the end" [/i
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| Quote ="William Eve"Hardaker should have been sacked by the club in June after being found guilty of homophobic abuse directed at a referee. That was MjM's opinion and it's an opinion I happen to agree with. So much for being given second chances and to grow up... oh well... he's now on his third, though some might argue it's now his fourth!
Loved this quote of yours concerning Hardaker and his exit from the England camp during the RLWC last season.....
[i"He [Hardaker was the only Leeds player not sent home from the [England squad. He left, as already pointed out, the rest were sent home at the end" [/i
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It was tongue in cheek at the time. But a true point all the same, unless you can prove any different? Stop been a dipstick, you have looked pretty silly last couple of weeks with the weak old material.
After been in hiding for so long, we expected you to come back with something new, something fresh. Your quite stake these days Jeff.
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| Another classic quote from that thread link I posted above, from McDermott's biggest fan no less...
[i"Hardaker let himself and the club down badly with his chav behaviour during the World Cup. The club quite rightly disciplined him and the lad has responded well with much improved performances this season. [uSeems to me our coach Big Mac deserves some credit in all this as his handling of Hardaker has achieved a positive result[/u"[/i
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| Yes William , made the dream team , made one mistake during the season with a comment that he should not have made but i am sure far worse has been said without being picked up , oh and also made threads on this board that have shown you up for the Dic$ you are
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| Well at least that's over with, I don't have to abandon the sport completley.
The whole thing has left a sour taste, like how they've magically come to a conclusion just after hardaker criticises them. I imagine if he'd kept his mouth shut the RFL would have let it run......and run.......and run.......and run.......and run.........and run....
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| appears I owe him an apology on this occasion, so I apologise.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Hardaker should have been sacked by the club in June after being found guilty of homophobic abuse directed at a referee. '"
No he shouldn't.
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| Quote ="Standee"appears I owe him an apology on this occasion, so I apologise.'"
Quite a few people do,well done for owning up, the whole thing has been a disgrace and some of the posters should be ashamed by their comments, the whole thing has been trial,by social media and a witch hunt, and now we know.
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| Hardaker needs to make suspicious looking mouth movements at every opportunity during games. Work the RFL into a froth & tie up the match review panel for weeks on end.
No doubt there will be those who say not enough evidence to bring charges doesn't equate to him having done nothing wrong. They would be more convinced if he had been charged & found not guilty?
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| Maybe the R.L can move on to more serious alledged incindents that have been happening
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| Apart from the RFL,and the muppets on here that base their opinions of Zak on unsubstantiated allegations, the ones that should be apologising to Zak Hardaker are the members of the media at the post match press conference that created the maelstrom in the first place.Who were they,does anybody know.
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| Quote ="Dwayne Dibley"Apart from the RFL,and the muppets on here that base their opinions of Zak on unsubstantiated allegations, the ones that should be apologising to Zak Hardaker are the members of the media at the post match press conference that created the maelstrom in the first place.Who were they,does anybody know.'"
The journalists don't need to apologise. The RFL have along with the clubs, a duty of care towards the players and treating them fair. Journalists job is to make headlines and get people to read/listen/watch and get them reading, listening and talking about......in this case they did their job just fine, the RFL didn't. The harsh reality is journalists have no duty or obligation towards Hardaker.
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| Depends if they are R.L. journalists in my opinion
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"The journalists don't need to apologise. The RFL have along with the clubs, a duty of care towards the players and treating them fair. Journalists job is to make headlines and get people to read/listen/watch and get them reading, listening and talking about......in this case they did their job just fine, the RFL didn't. The harsh reality is journalists have no duty or obligation towards Hardaker.'"
There is good and bad journalism.That fuelled by innuendo and twitter gossip (based on what?) is bad journalism in my eyes.It makes you wonder was there an agenda.Does the journo highlighting the gossip require anonyminity?
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| Quote ="Dwayne Dibley"There is good and bad journalism.That fuelled by innuendo and twitter gossip (based on what?) is bad journalism in my eyes.It makes you wonder was there an agenda.Does the journo highlighting the gossip require anonymity?'"
Some would argue that not going after the story is bad journalism, the guys who pay their wages would at least.
Don't know if they require anonymity, don't know if anybody has previously asked. On BackChat the other week Chris Irvine admitted to being in the post match and being one of those that asked the match commissioner about Silverwood reporting anything.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Some would argue that not going after the story is bad journalism, the guys who pay their wages would at least.
Don't know if they require anonymity, don't know if anybody has previously asked. On BackChat the other week Chris Irvine admitted to being in the post match and being one of those that asked the match commissioner about Silverwood reporting anything.'"
I wonder if Andrew Gilligan regretted going after the story on flimsy facts in the Dr David Kelly furore.Some thought his journalism was good journalism, I'm sure David Kelly would disagree.
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| Quote ="Dwayne Dibley"I wonder if Andrew Gilligan regretted going after the story on flimsy facts in the Dr David Kelly furore.Some thought his journalism was good journalism, I'm sure David Kelly would disagree.'"
Not exactly in the same league as some RL journalists asking the Match Commissioner post match "did Silverwood hear any Hardaker say anything?"
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Not exactly in the same league as some RL journalists asking the Match Commissioner post match "did Silverwood hear any Hardaker say anything?"'"
Agreed not in the same league,unless your the one put under the grubby media's spotlight with little substantiation.
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| Quote ="Dwayne Dibley"Agreed not in the same league,unless your the one put under the grubby media's spotlight with little substantiation.'"
TBF though I don't think the media did really make a big song and dance about it. They inquired about it and reported it of course but they also reported Hardaker's view the other day when he talked about how the RFL was dragging it's heels and the effect it was having on his family.
That was the one thing I think he got wrong in the aftermath when he made a comment about journalists being a waste of breathe. He used them himself to tell his side of the story so he was ok with that particular participation. When you compare it to the field day journalists had over some of the footballing incidents with the likes of John Terry, Luis Suarez, Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney then they didn't do anything like that. Even on that BackChat episode you had Stevo, Danny Lockwood and Chris Irvine all saying it seems to be a nonsense and I've not seen any sensationalising of it except from opposition fans on social media.
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| Given Bill eve's hysteria on here, he really should have given up watching the NRL years ago. Virtually every club has players guilty of domestic violence, general thuggery on the streets or lewd behaviour. Surely they should all be sacked - no matter how high profile they are. Unless actually hitting a woman is somehow a lesser crime than calling someone a name?
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| The hysteria on show here is from those fools who would rather their clubs players never get the sack no matter what offences have been committed, if only to prevent a rival club from signing that player
Of course, it takes an even bigger fool to consider homophobic abuse as nothing more than name calling.
The 21st century clearly appears to have passed some people by.
Having said that, Queensland isn't exactly notorious for it's progressive views.
It likes to refer to itself as the Sunshine State.
The moniker Redneck State would be far more appropriate.
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| Is that what you tell your 'mates' when you visit?
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| Your last post could be interesting and tested in the days to come William (nothing to do with the Rhinos or Hardaker may i add)
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| This topics trolling rating of A* has now dropped off the scale to U "Unscored".
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