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| Burrow had a chance when Gidley came out of the line, it was just unlucky that he dropped it.
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| Quote ="efcrhino"Burrow had a chance when Gidley came out of the line, it was just unlucky that he dropped it.'"
and no way did he have both feet behind the line which PB made sure Leeds were doing at all times!
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"and no way did he have both feet behind the line which PB made sure Leeds were doing at all times!'"
Said the same thing to our kid he's not that fast!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Said the same thing to our kid he's not that fast!!
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it was winding me up when Leeds were on the line defending all you could here was "Both Feet Both Feet"
when table was turned he let them get away with loads.
PS anyone notice Saints fans (behind the sticks) still giving it forward ever set of six at somepoint hillarious!
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"it was winding me up when Leeds were on the line defending all you could here was "Both Feet Both Feet"
when table was turned he let them get away with loads.
PS anyone notice Saints fans (behind the sticks) still giving it forward ever set of six at somepoint hillarious!'"
I heard Leeds fans shouting forward more than the Saints fans if im honest. As you say, hilarious!
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| Quote ="G1"Had Mclennan come up wit hthat performance I suspect you wouldn't be explaining it away, you'd have been creaming yourself. BTW, if they were shot from the playoff game who coached us in that?
They had some injuries but no less than they had yesterday.
OK, its' just opinions I guesss but if Hall didn't improve Mcl;ennan would be a lousy coach, under Smith he was a part time kid. Burgess didn't play under Smith so that is a strange statement. Donald was the same in 2008 as he was in 2007 9and 2006 for that matter). he's gone so far backwards under McLennan's master stroke of switching sides.
What does that mean? I know you've always had an issue ith JJB but surely you can see what a tremendous player Smith made him. Bluey has failed to keep that up. Maybe Bluey can't improve players the way Smith could??
Agreed. One wonders why the coach would ask him to defend a player like Matt Gidley.
What has changed on the right since that pinnacle in 2007 GF, or even Mclennan's effort in last years?'"
Gareth we must agree to differ on who is the better coach - as I already pointed out after 18 months in charge they both have identical records - it took Smith another three years after his first GF to win another - McClennan has plenty of time to emulate if not surpass what Smith achieved. If McClennan did that would put you between a rock and a hard place For you Smith's win in 2007 was far superior to McClennan's win in 2008 you are entitled that view. For me given Saint's determination not get done a second time and after the hammering they took two weeks previous 2008 was a serious achievement - but then McClennan did that and it could not compare to Smith's win the previous!!!
On Burrow where can he hide him he had him on the opposite side to Gidley swop him with the centre and the he likely to get trampled by an even bigger player - what can he do other than not play him.
On injuries Saints had one key player out yesterday Long as I said I might be mistaken by for the home game in 2007 they had 5/6 first team players out.
Disagree re Donald 2008 was by far his best season at Leeds but that is opinions - JJB was Smith's favourite player, a player he personally spent many hours working one on one at the detrement of other players it could be argued - JJB responded to that and really developed as player - not sure he could expect that one on one to continue - his form is not the same but this year though he perform pretty well last year after he came back from injury.
As I said McClennan has improved as many players as Smith - how much of the improvement would have occured naturally and maybe Smith had more young players who would have improved anyway at his disposal?
2007 we had Toopi an international centre and Ellis - compare McClennan's win ratio in 2008 to Smith's in 2007 with basically the same squad - McClennan's surprisingly is better as is his for and against - stats who need them
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"As you say, hilarious!'"
Not really.
Anyone shouting forward when stood behind the posts needs putting to sleep. At least those on the side can actually see if its forward or not.
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"I heard Leeds fans shouting forward more than the Saints fans if im honest. As you say, hilarious!'"
Most Leeds fans were stood on the sides where you have a better viewing angle you doylem
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| Quote ="King Monkey"Not really.
Anyone shouting forward when stood behind the posts needs putting to sleep. At least those on the side can actually see if its forward or not.'"
or as i've just seen, what he said!
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"Most Leeds fans were stood on the sides where you have a better viewing angle you doylem'"
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"Most Leeds fans were stood on the sides where you have a better viewing angle you doylem'"
Yet when Saints supporters, stood on the sides at their own ground shout forward, it gets plenty of attention from opposition supporters ?
Surely its the same thing ?
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Yet when Saints supporters, stood on the sides at their own ground shout forward, it gets plenty of attention from opposition supporters ?
Surely its the same thing ?
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Its called double standards
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Its called double standards'"
It happens at every ground, just appears to happen more at Knowsley Road.
I often get the impression that it's some kind of in joke there.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Yet when Saints supporters, stood on the sides at their own ground shout forward, it gets plenty of attention from opposition supporters ?
Surely its the same thing ?
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my OP was aimed at people stood behind sticks shouting it your doylem friend brought the Leeds fans into it
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| Quote ="tvoc"It happens at every ground, just appears to happen more at Knowsley Road.
I often get the impression that it's some kind of in joke there.'"
i thought it was the name of a new player years ago, or maybe a new chant
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| IMO the referee missed quite a lot for saints, interesting that no one has mentioned that on here though!
Saints were the better team, yet again, and deserved to go through!
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Yet when Saints supporters, stood on the sides at their own ground shout forward, it gets plenty of attention from opposition supporters ?
Surely its the same thing ?
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Not at all. Saints fans dont know their heads from their @r5es.
So working out a pass is way too much.
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"IMO the referee missed quite a lot for saints, interesting that no one has mentioned that on here though!
Saints were the better team, yet again, and deserved to go through!'"
Correct, Saints were the better team, but I ask you this, if the Saints bus had broken down and a team made up of supporters had turned out, would the scoreline have been the same?
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Correct, Saints were the better team, but I ask you this, if the Saints bus had broken down and a team made up of supporters had turned out, would the scoreline have been the same?'"
No.
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| Quote ="efcrhino"No.'"
Are you sure, I mean according to this lot on here:
If Donald changed sides Leeds would have won.
If Bailey had played Leeds would have won.
If Burrow hadn't marked Gidley, Leeds would have one.
If the referee had more hair Leeds would have won.
If Danny had beat up the four chavs at Wakefield train station he would have been picking up the soap for Gareth in Armley showers after Gareth had purposely carried out crime as to not leave his chum alone.
If Leeds were bottom of the league Rhinoms would still keep beieveing and Leeds would have won.
If Disa had met Phil Daly Leeds would have won.
And finally if Tony Smith had still been coach of Leeds, Leeds would have won.
Do you see where I am going with this........................
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Quote ="efcrhino"No.'"
Are you sure, I mean according to this lot on here:
If Donald changed sides Leeds would have won.
If Bailey had played Leeds would have won.
If Burrow hadn't marked Gidley, Leeds would have one.
If the referee had more hair Leeds would have won.
If Danny had beat up the four chavs at Wakefield train station he would have been picking up the soap for Gareth in Armley showers after Gareth had purposely carried out crime as to not leave his chum alone.
If Leeds were bottom of the league Rhinoms would still keep beieveing and Leeds would have won.
If Disa had met Phil Daly Leeds would have won.
And finally if Tony Smith had still been coach of Leeds, Leeds would have won.
Do you see where I am going with this........................'" '"
Yeah...................................................................................the banned list.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Quote ="The Magic Wand"
Yeah...................................................................................the banned list.'" '"
I can live with that Emma, the point i am trying to make is this, through poor recruitment, lack of any kind of long term plan or risk mitigation Leeds have gone backwards again.
They also did this under Smith but I always felt under Smith that Leeds could come up with a way of beating sides, especially Saints.
However with Bluey and his one of the boys management style I see nothing to convince me that he has any plan, and before anyone comes back and says he won us the GF, well that was a masterclass in copying the blueprint laid down by Smith in how to beat Saints.
Unfortunately Saints and Mick Potter have now worked out the answers and we are now way behind them.
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Are you sure, I mean according to this lot on here:
If Donald changed sides Leeds would have won.
If Bailey had played Leeds would have won.
If Burrow hadn't marked Gidley, Leeds would have one.
If the referee had more hair Leeds would have won.
If Danny had beat up the four chavs at Wakefield train station he would have been picking up the soap for Gareth in Armley showers after Gareth had purposely carried out crime as to not leave his chum alone.
If Leeds were bottom of the league Rhinoms would still keep beieveing and Leeds would have won.
If Disa had met Phil Daly Leeds would have won.
And finally if Tony Smith had still been coach of Leeds, Leeds would have won.
Do you see where I am going with this........................'"
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| Quote ="efcrhino"Burrow had a chance when Gidley came out of the line, it was just unlucky that he dropped it.'"
Agree. I also agree that Burrows took the wrong option going right instead of left when he made the break - but just remind me of how many other breaks (from either team) were as clever as Burrows break ?
Also Burrows tackling is better than most other half backs in Superleague - its just easier to mention his size - WHAT about the Wellens try - two players completely failed to stop him !! Not Burrows fault.
Only Paul Deacon is a better defensive 7 in Superleague
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| Quote ="harigeorgeson"Only Paul Deacon is a better defensive 7 in Superleague
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Watch him get targeted on Friday just like he has in every other game this season. The poor fella is being turned into a doormat.
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